Choice of optics for M14/M305 and its harsh recoil

Use a red dot on a quality mount for short distances. I use a bushnell red dot with quick release mounts or a 3x9 centerpoint on the casm ex mount with quick release rings as well. No issues with either optic holding up to the abuse.
 
This if you have the money!

If your on a regular guy budget here is my suggestion:

The m14 is already relatively heavy so a light scope should be in mind, you are planing mainly on 50 yard range so hight magnification is almost useless ( to me).

I would go with a m14.ca casm gen2 (aluminum) for a mount and a burris e1 2-7x35. It's inexpensive, it has a life time warranty and its tuff. The 2x makes quick work of anything from 10 yard to 100 and the 7x brings you easily to 300 yard and 500 if your douing your part.

Yes it's not as tacticool ( popular) has a 1-4 or a 8.5-25 but its a good compromise and its 210$

Pretty interesting, I'll definitely look into that Burris scope (and the brand altogether as a matter of fact). As for the mount, my mind was already made since I began roaming this forum, definitely going for a CASM II from m14.ca
 
If the majority of your shooting is at 50 yds, a 10X like the 3200 Tactical is more than enough.

More important IMO is the mount you choose - they vary from cheap and crappy to $250 ish and excellent.
 
This if you have the money!

If your on a regular guy budget here is my suggestion:

The m14 is already relatively heavy so a light scope should be in mind, you are planing mainly on 50 yard range so hight magnification is almost useless ( to me).

I would go with a m14.ca casm gen2 (aluminum) for a mount and a burris e1 2-7x35. It's inexpensive, it has a life time warranty and its tuff.
The 2x makes quick work of anything from 10 yard to 100 and the 7x brings you easily to 300 yard and 500 if your douing your part.

Yes it's not as tacticool ( popular) has a 1-4 or a 8.5-25 but its a good compromise and its 210$

The CASM is probably the best mount out there... it's better than the LaRue mount that I have on my EBR.
I have used the aluminum & steel versions of the CASM, and both are rock solid.
My scope skills are lacking, so I went with the LT-608 because I didn't want to give up my irons on this rifle.

Most of my shooting is with iron sights and red dots. Choosing my one & only scope was not easy.
True 1x, clear glass, decent eye relief, big eye box, simple reticle, and decent magnification were all factors.
Price was also a factor, but selling off two cases of NATO surplus covered the purchase.

CASM-S
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LT-608
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The CASM is probably the best mount out there... it's better than the LaRue mount that I have on my EBR.
I have used the aluminum & steel versions of the CASM, and both are rock solid.
My scope skills are lacking, so I went with the LT-608 because I didn't want to give up my irons on this rifle.

Most of my shooting is with iron sights and red dots. Choosing my one & only scope was not easy.
True 1x, clear glass, decent eye relief, big eye box, simple reticle, and decent magnification were all factors.
Price was also a factor, but selling off two cases of NATO surplus covered the purchase.

CASM-S
RazorHD.CASM-S.jpg


LT-608
LT-608.CHM21A5.EBR.JPG
I would just like to add that I love that scope! There is really nothing to compare a true 1x for 0-25 yard on a moving target, but pushing almost 2000$ I don't see myself having one anytime soon. But the new burris xtr2 1.5-8x28 dual plane reticle is on my radar for my rfb.

Also I would like to add how much I hate choosing scope, its nothing but a compromise between long range performance and short range, inexpensive and pricey!

If a reputable company could come out with a 500$ scope, lifetime warranty, 1-10x40, that is 100% with tracking turrets I would be happy lol.
 
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I would just like to add that I love that scope!
There is really nothing to compare a true 1x for 0-25 yard on a moving target, but pushing almost 2000$ I don't see myself having one anytime soon.

So $1100 was a good deal ;)

I have read good things about Burris scopes...
 
I have to agree on the CASM mount, after trying ARMS 18 ( would jam ejection, once in a while), SA original Mount ( zero would shift) on my other NM, all my problems were solved with the aluminum CASM mount, even with a 2 pounds + S&B PMll scope, it is sturdy and perfect... JP.
 
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So $1100 was a good deal ;)

I have read good things about Burris scopes...
Yes a awesome deal!

I have owned 4 burris scope and none let me down yet, they are awesome budget glass. I like the e1 series for there lifetime warranty, mid 2xx $ and finger adjustable turrets. Knly thing as the e1 has a usable enough bdc reticle I have not yet performed a tracking test on the turrets, it might not pass I have no idea, but it's not a mildot long range sniper scope.
 
I have a sadlak scope 3 point mount with a bushnell elite 2.5X10 on my M14. Have around 700 rounds through this weapon and the scope is still functional. As others have said get yurself a good solid mount expect to pay 300 bucks or so.
 
The Arms 18 takes some work opening the bolt and replacing the springs. Its a lot lower to the bore axis, which is nice.
Ive used Redfield Revolutions to great effect: awesome value. About to try a Crossfire 2 - $139, we'll see how it holds up.
 
Building an M305 will cost you a fortune that you will not get out if you decide to sell sometime down the road.
What harsh recoil is that? There's very little felt recoil. Whoever told you "it hits in two different directions" is very confused.
A 6.5-20X50 scope is far too much magnification and weight. 2.5x to 8x or a 3x to 9x is plenty. Mind you, you will get bored really fast at 50 yards and the muzzle blast will hurt.
 
Well m14 build.... expensive and not it depends how deep you want to go, I got a stock one that I will built down the road but nothing crazy.

Here what I will put on it:
-M14.ca casm gen 2 alu.
-m14.ca blackarrow spring guide.
-probably a burris e1 2-7x35 or 3-9x40
-a cheak rest

That doesn't break the bank and you shoul be under 1000$ and if your lucky under 2 moa. The m14 is only going up in price and the scope and accessories should still fetch about 75% of msrp on the ee so in a couple of years with the rising price of the m14 you should not loose money if you keep it simple like the mods I was saying.
 
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Building an M305 will cost you a fortune that you will not get out if you decide to sell sometime down the road.
What harsh recoil is that? There's very little felt recoil. Whoever told you "it hits in two different directions" is very confused.
A 6.5-20X50 scope is far too much magnification and weight. 2.5x to 8x or a 3x to 9x is plenty. Mind you, you will get bored really fast at 50 yards and the muzzle blast will hurt.

nobody is confused...... well...... not everbody :D
the m14 is known for it's double stroke of the action being hard on poorly mounted or poorly fabricated optics. whether this is correctly identified as recoil or not who cares.
 
I am running a 2moa t1 on my black feather shorty...works awesome. Will be putting a 6500 2.5 x 16 or pst 2.5 x 10 on a casm 2 mount on the 22 inch.
 
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