Took my Norinco chrome compact 45acp to the range for the first time.

Its odd how so many feel they need to adjust the sights. I've never had adjustable sights on a pistol and they all shot straight, POA is POI. I watched an instructor run a 226 without sights on plates at 25 yards without missing. I've also shot 12"x12" plates at a measured 50 yards without sights as has a very novice shooter friend of mine. Watch some Bob Munden trick shots, he runs an SA revolver with fixed sights and shoots aspirin/quarters/playing cards etc all day long. So tell me again how important sights are and why the need to adjust them???

TDC
 
Oh Obiwan, how does one acquire skills such as yours? And why does one of your skill have that big hunk of glass on your long range rig? and Obiwan, why do you have those fidgety micrometer sights on your target rifle? Please let me in on your secrets, Obiwan, so that I may throw away all my sighting devices and achieve that zen state of target acquisition.

I've been shooting longer than most people on this site have been breathing. I use sights. Yours need adjusting. Sure wish I could see 'em like I used to.

btw -darn fine shooting.
 
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TDC, are...are...are you rreallly Bill Blankenship ? You are, aren't you ?

TDC
'How long have you had this problem with your flinch ?'
chook
'Uhh, since I started winning !!'
 
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I get what TDC is defending but to me if you know how to shoot, your gun has adjustable sights, your groups are consistently off point of aim, you'd have to be pretty stubborn not to adjust your sights and even more stubborn to ignore the sights and learn to shoot the gun well instinctively.
Sight pictures and how a guy gets his gun to hit consistently where he wants is a personal preference. Just like where you put your finger on the trigger at the end of the day if they are grouping well, where you want them what more is there?
 
gwesson said:
I'd love a clean load with Unique because I came to respect it in 9mm (Lee 120gr TC with 4.3gr Unique; feeds well and quite clean) and I LOVE how it meters compared to Trail Boss.
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I just shot my new Girsan 9mm with 4.5 Unique, and it cycled well. I was all over the place to begin with, being fairly inexperienced with pistols, while Court shot a bulls eye on his first shot. He really can shoot! :) I will try 4.3 grains, and see how that cycles. BTW, much better than the factory ammo I had with me as well.
 
pmurphy456 said:
I just shot my new Girsan 9mm with 4.5 Unique, and it cycled well. I was all over the place to begin with, being fairly inexperienced with pistols, while Court shot a bulls eye on his first shot. He really can shoot! :) I will try 4.3 grains, and see how that cycles. BTW, much better than the factory ammo I had with me as well.
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Thanks Phil, I think there was a bit of luck involved there too. ;-) Your groups tightened up nicely as soon as you switched to your reloads. That Girsan shoots well.
 
chook said:
Thanks guys, I'll be sighting it in Tuesday. I highly doubt Norinco zeroes these guns at the factory. Heck, my Anschutz rifle wasn't zeroed in when I bought it new!
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I have visited some firearm factories. the military guns were each rough zeroed. They do this to make sure that the sight travel is sufficient to zero the gun.

The civilian guns were test fired for chambering, extraction and ejection, but were not shot at a target and not zeroed. About 1 in 100 is zeroed to make sure the components being use are the correct ones with enough travel to be able to zero the gun.
 
Ganderite said:
I have visited some firearm factories. the military guns were each rough zeroed. They do this to make sure that the sight travel is sufficient to zero the gun.

The civilian guns were test fired for chambering, extraction and ejection, but were not shot at a target and not zeroed. About 1 in 100 is zeroed to make sure the components being use are the correct ones with enough travel to be able to zero the gun.
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Thanks for that information Ganderite, I have always assumed that new firearms were not necessarily zeroed. Good information to know about the difference between military and civilian. Cheers.
 
TDC said:
Call it as I see it. 1911's are very good at covering up bad form, its what makes them so popular. Complaining about the trigger is a classic sign of not knowing and/or understanding the fundamentals of marksmanship. Unless that pistol was shot from a rest to produce those groups, the error is likely shooter related.

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noun
1. a person who acts as though he or she knows everything and who dismisses the opinions, comments, or suggestions of others.

Call it as I see it!

Op. Good shooting bro!
 
Court's shots today, after nudging the sights a tad. Three touching.

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