Society of Misguided Adventurers

the problem with the Big Five model is that is doesn't fit, a cougar isn't a leopard, and considering the wolf and alligator big game let alone dangerous game is a stretch. That leaves us with the big bears, the bison, and maybe someday the jaguar.

You gotta dance with the girl you brought so to speak.
 
the problem with the Big Five model is that is doesn't fit, a cougar isn't a leopard, and considering the wolf and alligator big game let alone dangerous game is a stretch. That leaves us with the big bears, the bison, and maybe someday the jaguar.

You gotta dance with the girl you brought so to speak.

How many canadians have a gator under their belt?.... its the society of misguided adventurers so an adventure should take place to complete the harvest. ... fully flying my bias flag, but I took my 3rd gator with a ruger single six after jumping on its back and duck taping its mouth.... locals in georgia think nothing off it.... I damn near needed a new pair of shorts...
 
You mean to say you trussed him all up, made him harmless then executed him........HHHMMMMMMMM......I don't know SB..........The Nile croc don't make it in Africa so I say the Gator don't make it here..........besides no sea creatures allowed, or I want the Narwhal included and then lets not forget about the largest animal we can legally hunt in NA..........the Atlantic walrus........now you want dangerous game, I'm telling you it don't get much better than Walrus..........I would truly love to watch you jump on one of them babies with just a roll of duct tape, that there would make for some super footage for youtube..........
 
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Well Mig if we are including relatives then we have no unique animals as there are bear species all over the northern hemisphere and South America which although are not identical are similar and closely related to the blackie, mountain goat is actually closely related to chamois and tahr and they are all over Europe's alps and NZ, likewise our pronghorn are very closely related to the Indian blackbuck and the chamois family as well. You split mule deer out as a specialty species of deer and yet you include the NA wapiti as just another elk like animal like red deer, European stag etc. In reality it is just another subspecies of the deer family no different than Axis deer, Rusa deer, Sika deer or WT for that matter. If Dall sheep aren't any different from the other 28 or so species of wild sheep then how can mule deer be different than the 50 or so other species of deer worldwide. And in actuality the Kamchatka sheep species are classed as a bighorn not a thinhorn at all.
Australia really is the only continent with truly unique and unrelated fauna in the world, if you want to get right down to REAL uniqueness.

It is also unfounded that a class of animal be unique to a given continent, to be included in a class like The Big Five of Africa..........elephants are indigenous to at least 2 continents and some say 3, lions roamed 3 continents once upon a time, leopards are almost world wide except NA, SA, (which does in fact have their own leopard, the jaguar,) and Oz. Rhinoceros likewise have 2 or 3 continents to call home, as does the several species of true buffalo. So uniqueness to a region or even a continent isn't necessary as a criteria for inclusion in a regions Big Five or Ten or whatever, big game or dangerous game list.

I thought the point was to find a slam or big 5 or something so threw out my "North American 4" as a possibility.

Elk (Cervus Canadensis) is found in North America and the exact same species is found in Asia. So it is just another elk.
Sheep, Ovis are found in Clarke's "Great Arc" and the Kamchatka Sheep are closely related to those on the North American side of the Bering Straight (it is not very far but we are used to looking at maps centered on the Atlantic). Hunters might call them a bighorn, but they are not.

The Mountain Goat and Pronghorn occupy Genera that are only found in North America, the Pronghorn is in fact the ONLY member of it's family and has no close relatives (name one other animal that sheds it's horns). The Mule Deer's Genus (Odocoileus) is only shared with the Whitetail (the Whitetail is disqualified from my list because it ranges in South America). I think they are still debating whether the Black Bear is in it's own Genus or not.

So it is my list, trademarked pending, I have fun defending it, and that is all that really matters.
 
You mean to say you trussed him all up, made him harmless then executed him........HHHMMMMMMMM......I don't know SB..........The Nile croc don't make it in Africa so I say the Gator don't make it here..........besides no sea creatures allowed, or I want the Narwhal included and then lets not forget about the largest animal we can legally hunt in NA..........the Atlantic walrus........now you want dangerous game, I'm telling you it don't get much better than Walrus..........I would truly love to watch you jump on one of them babies with just a roll of duct tape, that there would make for some super footage for youtube..........

Have you ever read the John Taylor book where he describes how the natives (he uses a different word in the book) would lash 3 old canoes together and sneak up to hippos? They would harpoon the hippo and in the event the wounded beast charged they would jump into the water and swim to their colleagues waiting in separate canoes. They would return to the lashed canoes when the harpooned hippo turned to flee. They would repeat the process until they slayed the beast.
 
Have you ever read the John Taylor book where he describes how the natives (he uses a different word in the book) would lash 3 old canoes together and sneak up to hippos? They would harpoon the hippo and in the event the wounded beast charged they would jump into the water and swim to their colleagues waiting in separate canoes. They would return to the lashed canoes when the harpooned hippo turned to flee. They would repeat the process until they slayed the beast.

I have read said book 1899...............Where I shot mine in Zambia, the locals wouldn't take their canoes with in 200 mtrs of the hippos, or they hugged the shore line where they could jump and scatter up the bank and into the trees. So either the hippos have gotten more aggressive or the black Africans have gotten less brave, or maybe a little of both.

Mig.............Ah C'mon, you know as well as I do that a deer is a deer is a deer........nobody really cares about deer anyway and every Tom, #### and Harry has 2 hanging on the wall, how positively common is that?
 
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I suppose if you don't have sheep to hunt..............

It doesn't have to be an either-or. We can shoot 3 Mulies per year here...in addition to 1 sheep.

I actually like all sorts of mountain hunting. Just can't do it as much as I used to :(
 
Bighorn Sheep and Mule Deer are hunted at the same time, on the same mountains. Many times I have seen them feeding and bedding together.
 
Brad, been there but I didn't do the jumping! Watched in stark amazement as a little Amazonian tipped off the bow of the canoe and hugged a Black caiman in the Amazon in the dark. He went over the side with nothing but a prerigged cord to tie the jaws. Sounded like an underwater WWIII. Most of those guys were missing digits and had scars I've yet to meet a PH who can match.
 
Brad, been there but I didn't do the jumping! Watched in stark amazement as a little Amazonian tipped off the bow of the canoe and hugged a Black caiman in the Amazon in the dark. He went over the side with nothing but a prerigged cord to tie the jaws. Sounded like an underwater WWIII. Most of those guys were missing digits and had scars I've yet to meet a PH who can match.

We did it two guys in tandem.... one jumps on the front shoulders and tapes the business end while the other jumps on the rear legs and tries to keep the aft portion steady while the front man complete a quick head shot....

Really, only the third gator is mine as it was the only one I finished off myself.... it was only an 8 and a half footer but sure had me scared.... will dig up and scan the old pic....

Gator may not be as prestigious as the others listed but it sure as hell was dangerous.... the meat is absolutely fantastic as well....
 
Bison
Grizzly
Polar Bear
Walrus
Cougar

Or just go with the BIG in BIG 5

Bison
Grizzly
Polar Bear
Moose
Elk

Maybe Mig is correct and it doesn't really fit. NA hunters that are inclined to do "checklist" hunts usually bundle things into groups, like Grand Slam sheep, the 3 moose, all the deer etc. :)
 
I don't know why anyone would call you an elitist Doug unless they were just plain jealous. You worked hard and made smart business decisions to get where you are. Which in turn allows you to be able to do really cool ####. That's awesome in my books man. #### 'em if they don't like it. :cheers:
 
Your name ain't Tom, #### or Harry...........is it.........BUM, but I'm pretty sure you got a bison on the wall, and I'll bet you've shot lots of deer......haven't you?

Surprisingly few. The downside of growing up and living in the North for most of my life. I think the grand total of "deer" stands at 2 mulies and 3 whitetails. There are kids who can't drive who've shot more deer than I have. Of course that doesn't count the ones I've shot at work which, oddly enough, are much more numerous.
 
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