Penalty for >5 Round Mags???

And the police are descending on you as we speak - best not to admit to federal prohibited device crimes on message boards. Rivet them or crush them with your favorite hammer - I think it is the same charge as owning landmines, rocket launchers with rockets or the most evil of all: nun-chucks!
 
Are you sure they are unblocked? I have seen factory 20 round M-305 mags that are blocked to 5 internally with no rivet showing. They have a long piece of metal welded to the follower.
 
A magazine capacity depends on what it was designed for. No matter what it fits the capacity remains the same. If you modify a bolt action rifle to take semi auto center fire rifle mags, your capacity is still 5 rounds. And im not 100% sure but I dont think disassembling a prohibited mag makes it legal.
 
..but if I run a company that "rebrands" and labels AR mags as LAR mags, despite using identical components and identical construction that is ok to make 10 round mags. So I guess I could start a company to make AIA mags using the M305 mags and probably be OK- seems pretty ridiculous.
As far as prohibited device from components, I guess only the body is prohibited part, if the follower and spring are the same. If the rivet falls out, does it automatically become prohibited at that point?- I can bring a unregistered handgun into the system -right? You would think you could bring a "non-compliant" magazine within the law as well-(depending on the circumstances )
 
Sluggo_m14 said:
So even if I fill in the guide rod hole, and sell my M305, and only use them in my AIA, I can't convert them to 10 rounds?
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No, because it does not change the fact that they are inherently M305 magazines that have been modified. You would need to destroy them, such as by melting them down and recasting them, and then remanufacture them like any other piece of sheetmetal.

Sluggo_m14 said:
That is just way too much work.
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That right there is the goal of most modern gun control regulations.
 
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zuke said:
Pull them apart for now and you'll be legal.When you figure out the riveting, do so.
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Actually, there is precedence that a bare magazine body, without follower or spring or baseplate, is still a prohibited device. If I recall correctly a guy who tried to import some to rivet himself is still in jail today.
 
Stevebot-7 said:
Actually, there is precedence that a bare magazine body, without follower or spring or baseplate, is still a prohibited device. If I recall correctly a guy who tried to import some to rivet himself is still in jail today.
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Yup.

In BC. 2009 or 10 iirc.

A appeal judge upheld a lower court decision that an un neutered magazine body was a prohibited device.

Iirc. "Buddy" was importing magazines for sale at a B&M store, it was a fairly large order of AR-15 mags. CBSA caught the shipment at the border. The followers and springs were shipped separately. He was charged. Found guilty. Appealed to a higher court and the lower court decision was upheld....
 
You know that just touching those things will turn you into a psychotic danger to society don't you ?
You must destroy them and then say ten Hail Marys immediately , or I fear for the safety of all in your vicinity !

Seriously though , as stoopid as it is , the penalties could make you sorry you ever found them .
 
for arguments sake

I buy an AIA rifle and it doesnt have a magazine (lost or whatever)
Can I make one to fit this rifle?...since the rifle is a bolt action, afaik there are no issues with bolt action rifle magazines.
 
jjort said:
for arguments sake

I buy an AIA rifle and it doesnt have a magazine (lost or whatever)
Can I make one to fit this rifle?...since the rifle is a bolt action, afaik there are no issues with bolt action rifle magazines.
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Yes, you could. However the recent RCMP decision will mean that unless it's limited to 10 shots you're looking at possession of a prohibited device because they think they are "dual-purpose".
 
Stevebot-7 said:
Yes, you could. However the recent RCMP decision will mean that unless it's limited to 10 shots you're looking at possession of a prohibited device because they think they are "dual-purpose".
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you CANNOT modify an M305, M1A or M14 magazine to accept 10 rounds FOR ANY REASON
it's really that simple.... call the cfc and ask them LOL

the law applies to the magazine
you CAN modify an m14, m1a or m305 to fit and function in the AIA BUT...... it must remain 5 rounds as it is a semi auto rifle magazine by manufacture

these magazine laws are easily understood I fail to see why everyone is so confused and looking for "loopholes" LOL

AIA mags are permitted at 10 rounds BECAUSE they are an enfield type bolt action rifle magazine , which our laws permit to be used in what ever rifle they happen to fit.
 
jjort said:
for arguments sake

I buy an AIA rifle and it doesnt have a magazine (lost or whatever)
Can I make one to fit this rifle?...since the rifle is a bolt action, afaik there are no issues with bolt action rifle magazines.
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Yes. So long as you don't make it from an m14 mag.

FWIW, I own an AIA rifle and a couple of M305's. The AIA mags work in the m305 but an m14 mag will not lock into place in an AIA. I like owning the rifle because it enables me to prove very visibly that the mags are not the same.
 
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