Norinco models, any real differenc between models (government, sport, police)

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Im buying a 1911 norinco as my first handgun to own. Its cheap and if I maintain it, should last a long time. I am just wondering if anyone knows the difference between the government, sport, and police model of the 1911a1 norinco line. They're all around 350$. Other then atheistic features and finish, is there any difference (barrel length, mechanical, etc)?
 
M-1911A1, clone of Colt M1911A1 pistol (blue version)

M-1911A1-P, Government Model version with Mil-spec (USGI) M-1911A1 clone; with the Phosphat finishing
M-1911A1-TT, Two-Tone version of M-1911A1
1911A1-Sport-B, Sport verion of M-1911A1, with Three dot sighting system, Extended slide release, Front slide serrations, Ambidextrous safety, Raised anti glare rib on slide, Large beavertail grip safety, Lite weight competition hammer, Lightened target trigger, Full length guide rod, The finish is non-reflective satin blue and Extended mag release.
1911A1-Sport-TT, Two-Tone version of 1911A1-Sport-B
M-1911A1C, Combat Commander style pistol
NP-30, Tactical verion version of Colt M1911A1 pistol clone with double column magazines, beavertail grip safety, extended slide release, flat mainspring housing, and extended ambdextrous safety.
NP-29, Colt M1911A1 clone in 9mmx19mm.
NP-28, Colt M1911A1 clone high cap in 9mm
NP-44, Colt M1911A1 clone high cap .45 ACP
M1911A1 C, Colt M1911A1 Clone in .38 special

all i could find.
 
Mostly just the finish. If I had to guess I'd say that they all came off the same forging dies.

Given that all three of my Norincos that I've had all came to me out of the box with some non standard issues I'm not sure I'd recommend a Norinco as a FIRST and, for a while at least, ONLY handgun. They are nice guns in many ways. But my experience showed me that it's best to treat any Norinco as a project needing some additional work instead of an instant user gun. If you insist on going this route I hope you find that your experience doesn't mirror my own.
 
Yea ive heard they can have some issues but for the price, I do not mind taking it to a smith to have him smooth out any problems and maybe change a sight or some springs to my liking. I think (from what Ive read) I will definitely take it apart and clean it thoroughly as soon as I get it. Thanks for the imput.
 
A Norinco 1911 was my first handgun purchase too.

Pretty hard to beat the price point if you're on a budget. Along those lines, I might propose you look at Norinco's NP22 as your first purchase.
The NP22 is a Sig P226 clone - and you'll find 9mm ammo is cheaper to shoot.

You could always get into re-loading if you really want the .45 - but that involves a fairly large initial cost of purchasing supplies, etc.
 
I might get into reloading down the road but not now. I think I'll stick with the 45 though, I'll put in a few extra hours for that no problem. Totally worth it to me.
 
If I was just starting out, wanted a Norc 1911, and was trying to get something GI like, I'd go for one of the non-Norc marked 1911A1's that Can Am was selling with the ammo deal awhile back. I think you can still get a new one, pistol only, off their website for $349. They come up in the EE quite often, used in the +/- $300'ish area, too.

Something a bit nicer for a few bucks more, take a look at the SAM's 1911's from Wolverine.

Just my .02

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If I was just starting out, wanted a Norc 1911, and was trying to get something GI like, I'd go for one of the non-Norc marked 1911A1's that Can Am was selling with the ammo deal awhile back. I think you can still get a new one, pistol only, off their website for $349. They come up in the EE quite often, used in the +/- $300'ish area, too.

Something a bit nicer for a few bucks more, take a look at the SAM's 1911's from Wolverine.

Just my .02

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For 50$ more im liking the look of the sam from wolverine, ill look into it. thanks for letting me know about it.
 
Something I say to every new handgun shooter is that if your first handgun isn't a .22LR them your second one darn well should be.

A rimfire semi auto is a great training gun for banishing the frequent flinch issues that big bore handguns can produce all too easily. Also any and more trigger time is good. The more the better. Your ammo $ can by a LOT more .22LR trigger pulls than it can .45acp. And that's more trigger pulls which means you'll end up shooting better.
 
Something I say to every new handgun shooter is that if your first handgun isn't a .22LR them your second one darn well should be.

A rimfire semi auto is a great training gun for banishing the frequent flinch issues that big bore handguns can produce all too easily. Also any and more trigger time is good. The more the better. Your ammo $ can by a LOT more .22LR trigger pulls than it can .45acp. And that's more trigger pulls which means you'll end up shooting better.

My second pistol is going to be 9mm or a 22, but before that Im getting an sks, those surplus rounds are cheap!
 
I would recommend a 1911 or np22 norinco. They were my first 2 handguns and for the price you can't go wrong. Watch the equipment exchange, if your patient you can pick up a 1911 for 250 bucks from someone who bought it because it was such a good deal, not because they thought they would use it.
 
My second pistol is going to be 9mm or a 22, but before that Im getting an sks, those surplus rounds are cheap!

Yes they are, But the Tok with those rounds barks like HELL and recoils pretty smartly as well. If, like many shooters, you develop a flinch with your first gun a 7.62x25 Tokarev isn't going to do squat for fixing it.

So I'd suggest that if it's all about the fun and grins then fine. But if you're goal is to become a better shooter with good small groups that others marvel over then you'll want to get that rimfire sooner instead of later.

And to be fair before the rimfire haters jump all over me I will admit that a person CAN become a very good shooter without a rimfire. But typically it'll take a lot more coaching and practice. And a LOT more expensive center fire ammo.
 
If you're shooting 45acp and not reloading then why are you going cheap on the gun when ammo is going to cost you a mint?

Minimum I'd say one of the SAM enhanced models is the way to go. Epps sells them too, BTW.

For a GI type gun you can find a used Remington R1 for about $600 too
 
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