Service Rifle Calgary

It is too bad people are p!ssing away over 100 years of service rifle history in Calgary and southern alberta....

Service Rifle existed before the Homestead ranges, I am sure it can thrive elsewhere if only someone would pick up the gauntlet and run with it.
 
A non-profit organization that holds the lease with K country and works to fulfill the Objectives above through the various range Stewards.

If that is the case why were ~70 members kicked to the curb? The APRA's actions (and members inaction) facilitated the opposite of your objectives.

Service Rifle existed before the Homestead ranges, I am sure it can thrive elsewhere if only someone would pick up the gauntlet and run with it.

SR was existing just fine on the 900m range at Homestead...
 
If that is the case why were ~70 members kicked to the curb? The APRA's actions (and members inaction) facilitated the opposite of your objectives.



SR was existing just fine on the 900m range at Homestead...

You sure are tenacious! I will give you that! You would rather talk about the past and point fingers and assign blame to everyone except yourself, than get your discipline back up and running.

The reason there is no service rifle at the APRA is quite simple:

No pay = no insurance = no play. It doesn't get any simpler than that.

I know you will say you offered to pay, and you complied, and you produced paper trails, the APRA is worse, certain people have it in for you, etc etc. and you did all these great things and big bad APRA screwed service rifle. 800 APRA members say otherwise, as witnessed with not one objection at the AGM to removing CSRA. Suffice to say any user group or Steward that fails to meet even the most basic of functions such as maintaining a membership roster and payments to the landlord will be removed. I would expect no less for the other user groups or Stewards if they went down that same path.
 
You sure are tenacious! I will give you that! You would rather talk about the past and point fingers and assign blame to everyone except yourself, than get your discipline back up and running.

The reason there is no service rifle at the APRA is quite simple:

No pay = no insurance = no play. It doesn't get any simpler than that.

I know you will say you offered to pay, and you complied, and you produced paper trails, the APRA is worse, certain people have it in for you, etc etc. and you did all these great things and big bad APRA screwed service rifle. 800 APRA members say otherwise, as witnessed with not one objection at the AGM to removing CSRA. Suffice to say any user group or Steward that fails to meet even the most basic of functions such as maintaining a membership roster and payments to the landlord will be removed. I would expect no less for the other user groups or Stewards if they went down that same path.

If you have followed this from the start, and it sounds like you have, you know damn well there is more to this than the admittedly poor record keeping of the CSRA. I'm more than willing to bet this entire episode would have been the same even if the CSRA had the most spotless paper work imaginable.
 
You sure are tenacious! I will give you that! You would rather talk about the past and point fingers and assign blame to everyone except yourself, than get your discipline back up and running.

I'm a realist. I know the discipline won't ever have a chance of being reinstated within the APRA as your own membership has tried since and you have kiboshed it at the executive level.

No pay = no insurance = no play. It doesn't get any simpler than that.

Yeah? You have account of that to prove it?

I know you will say you offered to pay, and you complied, and you produced paper trails, the APRA is worse, certain people have it in for you, etc etc. and you did all these great things and big bad APRA screwed service rifle. 800 APRA members say otherwise, as witnessed with not one objection at the AGM to removing CSRA.

I was at that AGM. The APRA executive would not allow any member of the CSRA to speak, and not one shred of evidence or proof was provided to the membership. Not one member of the APRA even asked for evidence or proof. All of the FUDDS in the room shrugged their shoulders and muttered to themselves 'not my problem'.
So yeah, job well done.

Suffice to say any user group or Steward that fails to meet even the most basic of functions such as maintaining a membership roster and payments to the landlord will be removed. I would expect no less for the other user groups or Stewards if they went down that same path.

Oh yeah? We were not the only club with membership irregularities - How have you managed the rest of the poor APRA accounting? You audit other clubs or did you just blame it all on the CSRA?

Even if you eliminate the CSRA and past members (as the APRA has already done), None of this explains why current members of your gun club cannot re-start the discipline. If the APRA follows their objectives as you state, why is there such pushback? I'll tell you why: The elimination of the discipline was politically driven by members of the executive and the membership ate the B/S reasoning
behind it hook, line and sinker.
 
If you are the face of service rifle in Alberta, and it seems you are, then I am sure every range operator and non-profit in Alberta is lining up to be on the receiving end of your hostility and your tireless pursuit of the volunteers and volunteer organizations who have done nothing wrong except donate thousands of hours every year to fundraising, hosting matches, training shooters, running clinics, building ranges, repairing ranges etc etc.

Imagine what could have been, if only you could turn your efforts to building something instead of trying to destroy what others have built.
 
I'm not the face of Service Rifle here or anywhere else.
I'm offering no hostility to anyone; simply exposing the APRA for what it is.
'Volunteers donating thousands of hours'...destroying a discipline and denying it's existence within it's parent club....
I too volunteered countless hours, material and money to the APRA and it's causes. Look where it got me....

'Trying to destroy what others have built'....aside from venting frustration directed at the APRA on this forum, I haven't so much as lodged a complaint against the APRA or it's directors or it's membership - despite their actions.

If you don't like me pointing out the hard facts of the matter, don't enter into a discussion about service rifle and try to mislead the viewers....:wave:
 
I'm not the face of Service Rifle here or anywhere else.
I'm offering no hostility to anyone; simply exposing the APRA for what it is.
'Volunteers donating thousands of hours'...destroying a discipline and denying it's existence within it's parent club....
I too volunteered countless hours, material and money to the APRA and it's causes. Look where it got me....

'Trying to destroy what others have built'....aside from venting frustration directed at the APRA on this forum, I haven't so much as lodged a complaint against the APRA or it's directors or it's membership - despite their actions.

If you don't like me pointing out the hard facts of the matter, don't enter into a discussion about service rifle and try to mislead the viewers....:wave:
I thought you guys were interested in getting something going but I can see now I was very wrong ,all you are interested in is going on a rant , all I can say is good luck with your discipline and I can only hope at some point you can get going in a positive direction.
 
So, for the APRA boosters.....

Why can I not get an APRA membership, without having to get a range membership to Homestead (look at my location)....why should I have to pay a $100 fee to a range that I won't shoot at, except if I am at a match, paying match fees.... Finally, why do I need to join a discipline that I'm not active in.....?????
 
I thought you guys were interested in getting something going but I can see now I was very wrong ,all you are interested in is going on a rant , all I can say is good luck with your discipline and I can only hope at some point you can get going in a positive direction.

Oh. Good. Another benchrest competitor from Rosebud chiming in with valuable insight.

Seeing as the APRA won't allow their own current members to form an SR group that shoots on their ranges, I figure the chances of them allowing new non-members and past members they kicked to the curb to do it slim to none. LOL.
But hey, anything can happen right?:HR:

As previously stated within this thread by others, if anything is to happen, be it affiliated with DCRA or not, it will need to happen away from the so called Alberta Provincial Rifle Association.
 
So, for the APRA boosters.....

Why can I not get an APRA membership, without having to get a range membership to Homestead (look at my location)....why should I have to pay a $100 fee to a range that I won't shoot at, except if I am at a match, paying match fees.... Finally, why do I need to join a discipline that I'm not active in.....?????

It's so that guys like you subsidize them and their shooting interests.
 
Most of the nice people that have conspired to kill service conditions shooting in the APRA have also given themselves lifetime memberships so they need the little guys to pay the bills because they don’t.
 
I am sure if you ask Bill W (Scout) he will let you know as to the location or disposition of the CSRA trophies and Flag . After all he was on the APRA executive committee
 
I am sure if you ask Bill W (Scout) he will let you know as to the location or disposition of the CSRA trophies and Flag . After all he was on the APRA executive committee

That was years ago Wayne - while you were president of the CSRA, and I was out of the APRA exec the year before service rifle was removed, as you know.

BTW - It would really help service rifle in Calgary if the funds were to be returned to the association to fund improvements at a range willing to host service rifle near Calgary.
 
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