Tavor vs AR

Id go type 97 wayy cheaper than the tavor and the ergonomics are fine once you get used to it. No need for silly trigger packs and if you need optics throw a yma 95 scope on it
 
Both were designed for military usage. Both are reliable, reasonably accurate and both are, IMO, gorgeously beautiful. The Tavor is the slightly chunky but hot chick and the AR is the slim super model cousin. I won't turn either away! The Israeli military uses both and seem to use them to good effect!
 
I also own both. I like both and have no problem with the accuracy of either. The Tavor is more compact and non restricted if that is a concern.
 
daniel_250r said:
Id go type 97 wayy cheaper than the tavor and the ergonomics are fine once you get used to it. No need for silly trigger packs and if you need optics throw a yma 95 scope on it
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The Tavor is objectively better than the T97, the only downside is price.
And if you're using it for competition, the ergonomics on the T97 are unusable.

In either case, I like AR15s more than both.
 
daniel_250r said:
Id go type 97 wayy cheaper than the tavor and the ergonomics are fine once you get used to it. No need for silly trigger packs and if you need optics throw a yma 95 scope on it
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With all due respect, I feel you are very incorrect about that. The T97 is a great gun for what its worth, but it by no means compares to a Tavor, they are not even in the same league.

The T97 only even begins to get some of the features the Tavor has by spending $350 on a M14.ca FTU and a yet to be anounced price for thier LHG, which in my opinion will brush the $400 mark with ease. Then you still have the other upgrades to do: butpad adapter, mag release, etc. Even after that is all said and done, the T97 still has problems with magazine insertion due to the lack of a flared or beveled magwell, and being to tigh for non-USGI mags and feeding problems that truely scare me.

I have had more rounds have the bullet pushed so far back into the case the gun powder runs out around it then I care to mention, and I only jave probably 150 rounds through it.

The only things that are comparable between stock Tavors and T97s is the bullpup format, caliber, barrel length, non-restricted status, and semi-auto action.
 
I have a Tavor and have shot ARs. I like both very much but the NR status of the Tavor was the clincher for me as i don't belong to a range. I'm not sure if i will become a member of one any time soon either. My restricted license will be here shortly but i'm stillon the fence as to whether it's worth the hassle...Maybe one day.....

That being said, if ARs were non restricted, an AR-10 would be my main hunting rifle without a doubt. :rockOn:
 
tavor for NR, but it's expensive.

I have a su16F NR plinker but I don't really like it honestly. I don't use it much.

I would just prefer to have a NR AR15 and be able to build a nice quality ar15 and use it at the range, and on the farm for plinking, etc.

Sad but it's not allowed.
 
onetwentyish said:
With all due respect, I feel you are very incorrect about that. The T97 is a great gun for what its worth, but it by no means compares to a Tavor, they are not even in the same league.

The T97 only even begins to get some of the features the Tavor has by spending $350 on a M14.ca FTU and a yet to be anounced price for thier LHG, which in my opinion will brush the $400 mark with ease. Then you still have the other upgrades to do: butpad adapter, mag release, etc. Even after that is all said and done, the T97 still has problems with magazine insertion due to the lack of a flared or beveled magwell, and being to tigh for non-USGI mags and feeding problems that truely scare me.

I have had more rounds have the bullet pushed so far back into the case the gun powder runs out around it then I care to mention, and I only jave probably 150 rounds through it.

The only things that are comparable between stock Tavors and T97s is the bullpup format, caliber, barrel length, non-restricted status, and semi-auto action.
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I had many ftf at first too then after
About 400 rds it stopped the ftf and hasnt had a hiccup in 200 rds. I think it requires the feed ramps to break in to work 100% the ergononics only make me slightly slowerewith mag changes than a tavor but unless your a mall ninja that wont matter much. I can actually bump fire my t97 thats how good the trigger is
 
daniel_250r said:
I had many ftf at first too then after
About 400 rds it stopped the ftf and hasnt had a hiccup in 200 rds. I think it requires the feed ramps to break in to work 100% the ergononics only make me slightly slowerewith mag changes than a tavor but unless your a mall ninja that wont matter much. I can actually bump fire my t97 thats how good the trigger is
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200 rounds is not a very clean record. My Tavor has 3000+rounds through it with only a handfull of stoppages, all resulting from me blocking the ejection port with my chin before I had a lefty bolt. The ergonomigs of it would be allright had the following issues been corrected before production.

1) safety. Why do I have to take my support hand away from the rifle to turn it on or off? This makes it a terrible competition or defense gun, and all around just bad news for newbies because it talks you into not properly turning on the safety when ever you are not ready to fire.

2) mag release. Its all right but not good if your a lefty, and down right terrible if you are righty. From factory there should have been a padle on the left handed side of the rifle to release mags.

3) no factory rail options. This resaults in crappy, huge height over bore ratio optics mounts that make mounting optics so difficult. Would have been an easy fix, but nope.

Lastly, while the trigger is much lighter than a factory Tavor trigger, it has many drawbacks the Tavor's does not. Namely creep in take up, mushy feeling, and over travel after it breaks.
 
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I am going to be buying a Tavor just for the fact that it is non restricted, Living in Northern Alberta i'm like 10 mins from the bush and I think its silly to have a gun you can only shoot on a range when you have so much open country. I can see if you lived in Toronto or some big city where you would have to drive hours to find some place with no people but up here when I go camping I would like to bring a gun and enjoy some target shooting so being non restricted is the selling point. Why they restrict handguns to ranges also makes no sense you can take a non restricted large bore rifle that can hit targets 1km away with accuracy and shoot to your hearts content that is legal but a 9mm handgun with a range of like 100 yards max is illegal in the bush..........................

I was going to pass entirely on the semi auto just because of the stupid 5 round limit but the beowulf magazines made me rethink getting a semi auto again so a Tavor using beowulf magazines will be my take to the bush gun for enjoying the outdoors.
 
The safety is for cost and simplicity of the gun it holds the trigger pack in place, my safety has always been my own trigger discipline and i rarely ever use the safety
When changing mags i simply tip the gun to the left and use my right hand to switch while observing the chamber
The factory rail is due to the pla using only their own equipment a factory ak scope mount is proprietary too.
The trigger can be modified with a shorter action bar and is not much different than a vz58 in feel
 
I just finally remembered to stick my timney trigger in. It took under a minute. Now wait until this weekend for tests.
 
For what you'd pay for a Tavor you can get a top-notch AR that will handle better and out shoot a Tavor. Unless you're shooting off-range, really want a Tavor, or want to stay out of the Registry (which are all valid reasons) any comparably-priced AR will be better than a Tavor
 
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