300WM with Varget

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Still pretty new to reloading how ever I seen a few loads for Varget in 300WM in my manuals. I got lots of Varget and imr 4895 With my first 300WM on its way I am wondering if any one on here is using them and what there loads and results where ?

Its a huge pain in the ass finding powder now so thought I might as well start with some thing I have lots of kicking around. I understand RL22 and IMR 4064 are more idea but I have not found any yet.
 
varget and imr4064 are the same so no need to look for 4064 just use varget. I personally would use a slower powder but if that's what you have and there's data go ahead and get'r done.
 
I figured it was to fast but might have to work with it till I find a better option. Now would you use magnum primers or would you stick with the non magnum primers like I use in my .308 ?
 
Whoever told you Varget and IMR4064 are the same is confused. 100 vs 94, respectively, on the burn rate charts. The same they ain't.
Reloder 22 is way slower than either Varget or IMR4064. It's at Number 130.
Magnum primers have nothing to do with the cartridge or its name. They're about the powder only. They burn a bit hotter for a bit longer and are for lighting hard to ignite powders and cold weather shooting. Unless your manual says to use 'em you don't need 'em. They do increase ignition reliability in cold weather though.
What bullet weight you planning on using? Best to decide that first.
 
sunray said:
Whoever told you Varget and IMR4064 are the same is confused. 100 vs 94, respectively, on the burn rate charts. The same they ain't.
Reloder 22 is way slower than either Varget or IMR4064. It's at Number 130.
Magnum primers have nothing to do with the cartridge or its name. They're about the powder only. They burn a bit hotter for a bit longer and are for lighting hard to ignite powders and cold weather shooting. Unless your manual says to use 'em you don't need 'em. They do increase ignition reliability in cold weather though.
What bullet weight you planning on using? Best to decide that first.
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I agree with the others...Varget is too fast. 4350-H1000 is the range I would stay in with the 300WM and even then I'd be more inclined to stick with the 4831s, RL22 and 7828 than anything faster. I prefer 180 grain bullets. Maybe with 165s a slightly faster powder would do, but that's not my style.
 
BigUglyMan said:
Really? Probably hunting in the winter and with big charges (70+ grains) of extruded powder? I'd be going with magnum primers. Then again, I use magnums in all of my standard long action cartridges.
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Well Vargets a fast burn powder I was just wondering if magnum primers are a better idea do to the amount of powder being used I do not shoot in cold weather. Mostly just plank so I figured the non magnums should be fine. How ever just want to make sure. When I do find magnum powders I will be using magnum primers.

Unless the powder fairies turn up some soon I will be stuck making what I got work.
 
I use a lot of H4895 in 300WM for reduced loads. I started using cast bullet data with regular jacketed bullets but tried to just use regular 308 Win data and it worked great. Can keep MoA accuracy and same PoI out to at least 100yds (as far as I've shot them).

I also tried some loads with 95gr VMAX bullets that used H4895 and they performed very poorly. Data was from the Hodgdon site.

No filler and my loads are always over 50% case capacity.

Other than that I use H4831 in my full power 300WM loads.
 
Raceready68 said:
Well Vargets a fast burn powder I was just wondering if magnum primers are a better idea do to the amount of powder being used I do not shoot in cold weather. Mostly just plank so I figured the non magnums should be fine. How ever just want to make sure. When I do find magnum powders I will be using magnum primers.

Unless the powder fairies turn up some soon I will be stuck making what I got work.
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I hear you with the "run what you bring" issue. Standards should work fine but magnums would probably be a little better.
 
If the manual has a load for it, try it.The target will tell you if it is good or not.I use H1000 in a 25-06, works amazing, many would say it is too slow, you don't know until you try.

The load data has been tested for safety.

As for primers, again use what the manual recommends, ball powders and cold weather usage MAY benefit from a hotter primer, some manuals also state this.
 
You will find that recoil will go down all out of proportion to the velocity loss. Optimizing velocity with powder choices has its own appeal, but so does being able to shoot what you have, with what you have. You will likely have to drop your bullet weight, depending on what you are using now.

If by using an non-optimum powder in your Win Mag you "only" get WSM velocities, or barely beat a 30-06 is that the end of the world? Its a darn sight better than not shooting it. Besides, having a low recoil lighter bullet practice load might be handy. You could practice on most North American animals.
 
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