Diemaco C8 worth the price?

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GuiltySpark said:
The advisers we had working with the Afghan National Army in Afghanistan routinely saw more combat than our "front line" soldiers; atleast outside of dedicated ops. Being called an adviser doesn't move them away from combat, it's actually quite the opposite.
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I bolded the important part of what I quoted. If what you say is true then I hope we don't see ISIL take action against canada like they have done with the US for entering the conflict.
 
This got blown out of proportion . Bottom line is , yes Colts are very nice rifles hands down. To bad they decided to use a middle man because if they had not , I would have bought both models
 
GuiltySpark said:
because you guys keep talking about $1000 Colt LE editions. There's a difference between a C7A1 variant and a $1000 colt Ar15, same as there's a difference between a Toyota 4Runner SE and a RAV4.




You're welcome kido.
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Explain the difference? Cc is owned by colt USA, same company.

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Zeroed-In said:
One aspect that hasn't come up when comparing the prices of the Wal-Mart Colts versus the Canadian Colts is volume sold and how it affects the price. If CC were selling the tens of thousands of rifles that USA Colt does per year their price would be much closer to the USA Colts price. So it's not so much Colt Canada gouging us as it is the way supply and demand works or in this case doesn't.

I do believe we are being gouged by the middle man though (cough, Korth), isn't that all they do (the middle man I mean LOL) and therefore should be avoided whenever possible. It's to bad CC didn't see it that way and gone directly to our CGN retailers, because this may have dropped the price by $500. If so then there would be a new CC in my safe instead of the DD I went with for a $1,000 less, cold hammer forged barrel and all.
Yes I still want a Canadian made Colt (I used a C7A1 in the reserves and realize how really durable and accurate these rifles are) even though my DD is an excellent example of an AR and probably the closest comparison to a CC w/o spending more then what a CC costs. In the case of the CC at $2,140 versus the DD at $1,200 I had to calculate the value in paying a $1,000 more (with taxes in) for arguably the same (or very similar) rifle and in this case the value didn't compute.
Had the difference been only $500 there would probably be a CC in the safe by now. For those wondering why I would pay $500 more for what would seem a similar rifle, I guess the answer is 1.) I do want a rifle similar to the one I had in the Army, 2.) Knowing firsthand how much abuse these rifles can take and still shoot accurately allows me great confidence that I think would be difficult to find in any other AR and 3.) Owning a premium quality Canadian made product is something I am proud of and am willing to pay extra for; if that makes me a sucker instead of a proud Canadian it's something I can live with, just be careful saying it to my face.
So I'll wait and see if the prices come down to a more competitive level or bide my time waiting for what I really want a 14.5" IUR.
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Cc and colt USA are the same company. Seeing as cc is entirely dependent on gov contracts I don't see them losing a dime selling ar's to the public at a competitive price. I can guarantee they aren't selling them to the gov for $2500 a unit. The cc rep already stated that the civvie guns are near identical to contract guns, so there's no additional setup costs, so explain the price gouging?

Tdc
 
TDC said:
Cc and colt USA are the same company. Seeing as cc is entirely dependent on gov contracts I don't see them losing a dime selling ar's to the public at a competitive price. I can guarantee they aren't selling them to the gov for $2500 a unit. The cc rep already stated that the civvie guns are near identical to contract guns, so there's no additional setup costs, so explain the price gouging?

Tdc
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I agree with you on that . The price gouging = Korth
 
TDC said:
I can guarantee they aren't selling them to the gov for $2500 a unit.
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Are you sure?
The Canadian government pays $120 for this.
Not even exaggerating.
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I recall hearing that the C7A2 was + $2000 to the government, I heard that back when I went through basic about 8 years ago while doing the C7A2 course. I can't substantiate that, so is there someone that actually knows. I'm talking real references, not probably or roughly.
 
POMLT3-08 said:
I recall hearing that the C7A2 was + $2000 to the government, I heard that back when I went through basic about 8 years ago while doing the C7A2 course. I can't substantiate that, so is there someone that actually knows. I'm talking real references, not probably or roughly.
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In 1996 I recall them (C7A1) being $1500 on paper, no scope.
 
Why the comparison between the US Colts and the Canadian ones?

IF they're not the same, they shouldn't be priced the same.

IF they are the same, then those complaining about that fact should also complain about the price of Glocks and Sigs and S&W up here vs the US. Same gun should be similar priced, if I'm understanding some of the arguments here.

I bought a SA20 and very much like it. I could have bought a DD or a KAC or a Noveske too, but since functionally they are all pretty much similar to each other, I went with CC because I WANTED TO. The difference in money from what I wanted to pay to what I did pay comes out to a few dollars per year that I plan to own this and then pass it on to my son.

This, and other reasons, are my own. Value is in the eye of the beholder, not something that can be empirically arrived at, let alone debated.
 
Deckard said:
The first time I see one at the range I will be impressed. "Oooooo! Ahhhhhh, man. You are super duper cool and rich to have one!"
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So if you run into me at the range with my SA20 you are gonna do some song and dance over it and me for buying it with some kind of chip on your shoulder?

Crap, I'd really rather just shoot.

Can't we just get along?
 
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