Long Range Weapon Recommendations

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Good Day All,

This is my first post in this forum, and thought i would start with something that is of my favorite of topics.

I am curious what *eapon (editted, please read "utensile") would be suggested for extra long distances.
I currently employ 308 (7.62 Nato) for around the 700-1000yd range, with the expected grouping results (1-1.5")(EDIT - MOA).

What I would like to do, without getting into the .50cal swing of things, is find a reliable long-shooter that could reach me out to an accurate 1500-2000yd range, with a 19/20 on target hit ratio. (and i'm not saying i want pin-hole groupings either.....but rounds on target at that range.I like the accuracy and availability of the 7.62 rounds, and the amount of surplus available, as this allows me to put tonns of practice rounds downrange.

That being said, the further i reach out the more factors come into play that effect the flight path and ending punch on target.
I do know of a couple guys that have lobbed rounds out to rediculous distances with the 7.62, but i would like to take a bit of the calculations out of the picture, and go with a more flatter shot path.


Suggestions?.....experiences you've had with certain cal/ammo combinations?


Thanks.
 
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Mako22 said:
Good Day All,

This is my first post in this forum, and thought i would start with something that is of my favorite of topics.

I am curious what weapon would be suggested for extra long distances.
I currently employ 308 (7.62 Nato) for around the 700-1000yd range, with the expected grouping results (1-1.5").

What I would like to do, withough getting into the .50cal swing of things, is find a reliable long-shooter that could reach me out to an accurate 1500-2000yd range, with a 19/20 on target hit ratio.
I like the accuracy and availability of the 7.62 rounds, and the amount of surplus available, as this allows me to put tonns of practice rounds downrange.

That being said, the further i reach out the more factors come into play that effect the flight path and ending punch on target.
I do know of a couple guys that have lobbed rounds out to rediculous distances with the 7.62, but i would like to take a bit of the calculations out of the picture, and go with a more flatter shot path.


Suggestions?.....experiences you've had with certain cal/ammo combinations?


Thanks.
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Welcome to CGN. I am sure that you will get some interesting replies soon. :)

If you are getting 1-1.5" groups at 700-1000 yards there is very little advice I can offer.

I would look around for your local Precision Rifle and/or F-class association. They will give you good information, not like some of the dubious things you read on the net.
 
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Seeing as this is the Long Range/Precision Shooting Competitions forum, where do you compete?
What *eapon are you using to shoot 1 - 1.5" at 700 - 1000y?
 
AB.boy said:
Tell us about you current .308 rig and ammo combination that has given you such wonderful results.
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don't know what happened to my last reply, but it didn't post......

I don't compete as of yet, but have been shooting for my own enjoyment at a remote logged out area that i've converted into my own range.
I did some measurements, flagged it out (which has assisted in showing wind directions), and placed hard targets at slash piles at relevant distances.

I have been shooting basic 308/7.62 NATO surplus out of my 2 308's.
1 is more accurate than the other i've found.
- Remington 700 SPS Tactical AAC
- Mossberg Night Train2
I've just been putting as many rounds downrange as possible and trying to get everything dialed in.

Obviously, it isn't the ideal setup for competitive shooting, which is why i'm here asking for advise.
It took quite a few rounds, and burned out barrels before i started seeing the results that i have now.
 
Mako22 said:
Good Day All,

This is my first post in this forum, and thought i would start with something that is of my favorite of topics.

I am curious what *eapon (editted, please read "utensile") would be suggested for extra long distances.
I currently employ 308 (7.62 Nato) for around the 700-1000yd range, with the expected grouping results (1-1.5").

What I would like to do, without getting into the .50cal swing of things, is find a reliable long-shooter that could reach me out to an accurate 1500-2000yd range, with a 19/20 on target hit ratio.
I like the accuracy and availability of the 7.62 rounds, and the amount of surplus available, as this allows me to put tonns of practice rounds downrange.

That being said, the further i reach out the more factors come into play that effect the flight path and ending punch on target.
I do know of a couple guys that have lobbed rounds out to rediculous distances with the 7.62, but i would like to take a bit of the calculations out of the picture, and go with a more flatter shot path.


Suggestions?.....experiences you've had with certain cal/ammo combinations?


Thanks.
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You sure you are shooting paper targets?.....if yes......how big are the targets?
And why would you care about energy (You called it punch) on taget?, it's only paper. (velocity, maybe....energy, NO)
 
cet said:
And the surplus ammo you are using..............according to your OP.
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whichever Czech or Romanian stuff i can get at the best price.
anywhere from $260-$300/1440rds

I ain't fancy, and don't have deep enough pockets to buy the good stuff, or knowledge to be reloading as of yet.....but would like to get there.
 
The more you shoot surplus ammo and build your shooting skills, the more you will become aware that quality match ammo or handloads for most of us here, will improve your groups 100%.
At some point, using a good rifle and decent optics, this ammunition weakness will become glaringly obvious to you as the shooter, as your extend your effective range on paper targets.
And I've seen good results with South African surplus at out to 600 meters. Myself I find it a little bit hard to swallow that Romanian surplus would perform 'match like' at anything approaching long range?

my opinion only
 
I've not had much experience in extra-long range shooting. I've only shot out to 300m with my precision police sniper .308, and average 1.5" 5-shot groups at that distance. However, I do know of people who regularly shoot at 1000 and beyond and most are shooting an Accuracy Internation in 338 Lapua Magnum. Other rifles to consider are the PGW C14 Timberwolf and the HS Precision HTR, both in 338 LM. Of course, if you want to go really big, you can get yourself a "BigMac" in 50 BMG. "BigMac" being the McMillan Brothers Tac50. For further advice on shooting at these ranges, you may want to contact Rob Furlong at the Rob Furlong marksmanship academy. He was the world record holder (Canadian) for the longest shot in combat at 2430 meters with the Tac50 until his record was broken by Crp. Craig Harrison using an AI L115A3 in 338 LM at 2475 meters. Rob is a good head and has a Facebook page as well. Best of luck in your decision.
 
Mako22 said:
Good Day All,

This is my first post in this forum, and thought i would start with something that is of my favorite of topics.

I am curious what *eapon (editted, please read "utensile") would be suggested for extra long distances.
I currently employ 308 (7.62 Nato) for around the 700-1000yd range, with the expected grouping results (1-1.5").

What I would like to do, without getting into the .50cal swing of things, is find a reliable long-shooter that could reach me out to an accurate 1500-2000yd range, with a 19/20 on target hit ratio.
I like the accuracy and availability of the 7.62 rounds, and the amount of surplus available, as this allows me to put tonns of practice rounds downrange.

That being said, the further i reach out the more factors come into play that effect the flight path and ending punch on target.
I do know of a couple guys that have lobbed rounds out to rediculous distances with the 7.62, but i would like to take a bit of the calculations out of the picture, and go with a more flatter shot path.


Suggestions?.....experiences you've had with certain cal/ammo combinations?


Thanks.
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1-1.5" at that far!!?? Yep, not much I can tell you, but I do have to ask....what platform ?
 
Mako22 said:
don't know what happened to my last reply, but it didn't post......

I have been shooting basic 308/7.62 NATO surplus out of my 2 308's.
1 is more accurate than the other i've found.
- Remington 700 SPS Tactical AAC
- Mossberg Night Train2
I've just been putting as many rounds downrange as possible and trying to get everything dialed in.
Obviously, it isn't the ideal setup for competitive shootingQUOTE]

Now I understand.
Sorry for my original reply, you sounded like a "trolling sniper wanna-be".
Happy to hear that you got out there and started shooting, the firearm/ammo/target does not matter.
With some help from the CGN gang, you will be on your way to becoming another addict, like the rest of us.

Cheers
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Artillery or airstrikes would be my long range weapons of choice.... I have heard of great success for targets between 1km-26km away. I am not sure of the 1-1.5" groups though... unless laser guided?
 
Mako22 said:
Good Day All,

This is my first post in this forum, and thought i would start with something that is of my favorite of topics.

I am curious what *eapon (editted, please read "utensile") would be suggested for extra long distances.
I currently employ 308 (7.62 Nato) for around the 700-1000yd range, with the expected grouping results (1-1.5").
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1"-1.5" groups at 1000 yards with a .308?

Gotchya.
 
GuiltySpark said:
1"-1.5" groups at 1000 yards with a .308?

Gotchya.
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This isn't on every outting obviously.
I would say the average is about 65-70% success with groupings of that diameter.
Rounds on target are higher.....but looking like a 3 year old throwing crayons at a wall.

I have found that Surplus ammo isn't all that bad....although, i do believe i would get distinctively better if i was putting 1000 rounds of Federal downrange.....but that is at a cost 3-5 times more than Surplus.


Thx Cet*, definitely have enjoyed precision shooting (as i would like to call it) since i was a kid.
Got addicted to the "pop and result" when i was 8, and shot a butterfly from about 50yds with a 22lr.
There's nothing better than giving a light squeeze then counting 4,3,2,1 and watching the contact.

Good to see the emense knowledge base and welcoming info......
 
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