Glocks and practice.....
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Clobbersauras
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Nothing definitive. Fist size groups as fast as I can. Should really set a goal.
Tdc
Tell that to 1911 guys who can't shoot a glock for SH!t.
Tdc
I can shoot a Glock just fine. But then, I pay more attention to the skills than the gun. I do shoot a 2011 in competition because that's what I need to win. In fact, I know lots of guys who shoot 19/20ll's who also shoot Glocks, just fine.
I also know lots of Glock shooters who can't shoot Glocks OR 1911's on anything else well. What does that tell me? Gun is less important than skills.
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You be joking, right?
Clobbersauras
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Try the F.A.S.T. (Fundamentals, Accuracy & Speed Test).
Instructions and target downloads are in the link below:
ht tp://pistol-training.com/drills/the-fast/comment-page-3
It's not the be-all end-all of tests, but it's humbled more than a few people that thought they could shoot. Remember, the F.A.S.T. is best shot cold and should only be shot 3 times per range session. It's not meant as a drill; it's a test and should be treated as such.
There's a thread in this forum where other members have posted their F.A.S.T. times.
Henry The Yellow Dart
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I'm a fan of that drill, actually more of a test as the name states 
whenever I hit the range with some buddies we'll all shoot it once cold and at the end of the session we'll shoot it again. Managed a 6.02 clean today; though most of this year I've been in the 6.50 - 6.70 range.
whenever I hit the range with some buddies we'll all shoot it once cold and at the end of the session we'll shoot it again. Managed a 6.02 clean today; though most of this year I've been in the 6.50 - 6.70 range.
Dot torture, for your viewing pleasure. Shot this morning with my Glock 34, 50 rds and 3 mags. Takes just a little over 6 mins.
Only used 50 rds this time, next time I'm planning on using 500 rds just to sort of caramalize it.
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Dot torture, for your viewing pleasure. Shot this morning with my Glock 34, 50 rds and 3 mags. Takes just a little over 6 mins.
Only used 50 rds this time, next time I'm planning on using 500 rds just to sort of caramalize it.
They call it the dot test, you sure are in each dot perfectly, nice ... Were can we download those special targets, i would like some... JP.
I don't know anyone who can shoot a glock that can't shoot anything else well. I've seen and know a lot of 1911 shooters who can't shoot a glock for SH!t. Oddly enough most of the pro 1911 guys I know are glock haters and they also can't shoot glocks for SH!t. See a pattern? They hide behind the pistols ability to cover up their poor form. Not all 1911 guys are haters or poor shots, but the majority are in my experience.
Tdc
Well I can see why you would say that I guess, though my personal experience doesn't mirror yours. I know lots of folks who have 1911's that can't shoot those either and that's just because they don't know how and/or don't practice. In my experience, the fundamentals of pistol shooting are not platform-specific. That is; you either can or you can't.
Fact is; most of the guys I know who can shoot their 1911's really well can pick up just about anything and do pretty well with it. By really well I mean say, a palm sized group at 50 meters. At that distance, you aren't going to cover up anything with a nice trigger pull - you just flat out have to be able to shoot because any tiny mistakes you are making will be magnified alarmingly.
As well, most of the 1911's (2011's) I've handled over the years have come out of the box with triggers that are rather more difficult to shoot than Glock triggers. Inconsistent, heavy, gritty....just not good at all. Sure, once they're tuned they can be pretty nice but I'd have to say that if you can handle your average stock 1911 trigger and hit consistently with it, you can probably deal with a Glock.
Edit to add: In IPSC competition (where my interest lies), if you have persistent errors in your fundamental skills they are absolutely going to show. Glock, CZ, Tanfoglio, FN, 1911....doesn't matter what poison you choose. If you can't hold the gun in alignment with the target and manipulate the trigger without displacing it, the errors will show up in your match results.
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I don't disagree. I'm saying that most who can't shoot tend to stick with something that covers up their bad form, like a 1911. Few who don't understand the fundamentals stick with a glock or a da/sa gun as it simply frustrates them and of course its the gun not the shooter.
Tdc
I'm gonna call a big serious bull#### to the palm size group at 50 metres. I'm betting only about 100 people in the whole freakin world can do that consistently.
A hundred? I wouldn't put money on that bet. Anybody competing in the higher ranks of ipsc pretty much has to be able to do that. Maybe not in Canada, but if we're talking world wide, there's a LOT more than a hundred. More than that in just the US I would think.
ETA: This is all I have saved right now. Not 50 meters but a little over 40 so you get the idea. Bottom shot was a called flier.
There's a whole world of people out there that shoot better than me.
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