Americans goose hunting in Saskatchewan?

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As we are combining we seem to have tons of Americans wanting to hunt on our land. We give them permission but I an wondering, are they not supposed to have a hunting guide with them? Or are geese a free for all?
 
As we are combining we seem to have tons of Americans wanting to hunt on our land. We give them permission but I an wondering, are they not supposed to have a hunting guide with them? Or are geese a free for all?

http://www.environment.gov.sk.ca/default.aspx?DN=2a5dfe9f-6442-4667-ad59-253883e8b8e2

Game Birds
(A Federal Migratory Game Bird Permit, the applicable Saskatchewan game bird
licence and Wildlife Habitat Certificate are all required to hunt waterfowl during
the fall season)
Migratory Game Bird Permit ...........$17.85
Saskatchewan Resident Game Bird ..............................................................$10.79
Canadian Resident Game Bird ......................................................................$56.91
Non-resident Game Bird ..............................................................................$113.83

*Guided Licences
All non-resident big game hunters (white-tailed deer, moose and bear) and
Canadian resident moose hunters must use the services of an outfitter, possess
a resource allocation licence (RAL) and the applicable guided licence.
Canadian resident black bear hunters may hunt with or without an outfitter;
however, if an outfitter is used, a RAL and guided licence are required.
Canadian resident hunters who hold a draw white-tailed deer licence have the
option to hunt with or without an outfitter and do not require a RAL or guided
licence.

No mention of Guides being mandatory for Migratory Game Birds that I was able to find while I gleaned this information.

Rob
 
Migratory Birds is a Federal regulation, not provincial and it falls under the NAFTA if I remember correctly. Lots of American outfitters come up, make big $$$$$ and do not pay any Canadian taxes. I suppose they use the local hotels and resturaunts. I know in Alberta a few years back they started to regulate local APOS outfitters for territory they are allowed for migratory birds.....it was getting out of control.

I know of lots of issues on land access/permission between local hunters and the American outfits and APOS members. Some pretty heated up situations that's for sure.
 
Migratory Birds is a Federal regulation, not provincial and it falls under the NAFTA if I remember correctly.

The Migratory Birds Convention Act and its regulations do not displace provincial hunting regulations. PEI, for example, still requires the use of licensed guides for any hunting, including waterfowl, iirc.
 
I don't shoot geese anymore really, too many americans have dibs from the land owners where I used to go. 8-10 years ago it was just a couple of us local guys looking for geese in that same area.
 
As we are combining we seem to have tons of Americans wanting to hunt on our land. We give them permission but I an wondering, are they not supposed to have a hunting guide with them? Or are geese a free for all?
They are not required by law to have a licensed guide. There is a multitude of geese in Saskatchewan like no other in the world. Personally, I believe that the reason for limited restrictions regarding out of Country/Province hunters is to help the land owners with the magnitude of waterfowl. Only once I hunted geese in Saskatchewan (Town of Kyle) and never in my life did I ever see so many birds.
 
You want me to send the geese or hunters? LOL. The Americans have always been good around here. Always ask permission as far as I can remember.
 
My cousins and family came up from Wyoming to meet up with the uncles for goose season. Great people, lots of fun to be arround. Usually good for a family gathering including Granny.

As far as crop damage, ya, they can be devistating in sufficient numbers.
 
They are not required by law to have a licensed guide. There is a multitude of geese in Saskatchewan like no other in the world. Personally, I believe that the reason for limited restrictions regarding out of Country/Province hunters is to help the land owners with the magnitude of waterfowl. Only once I hunted geese in Saskatchewan (Town of Kyle) and never in my life did I ever see so many birds.

But Saskatchewan does forbid guiding without a license. Americans can come here and use a local guide/outfitter or do it themselves. Occasionally an American is caught pretending to be just one of the party that is paying him to guide.
 
As a die hard waterfowler, I prefer Americans and American outfitters in the area over local outfitters. Our local outfitter is the biggest two faced weasel you'd ever meet who thinks he owns every stitch of land between Alberta and Manitoba. His antics are starting to grow tiresome and locals are starting to get sick of him. The American guide who's nearby? Just a stand up fellow you can actually have a conversation with, and actually respects other hunters in the area.
 
Wonder if they have work permits ? if they are making money they claim or declare it? This is terrible and has to be changed..
 
The problem with this is that these rich americans goose hunters is they pay the farmers with new $1000 BBQ's, new Benelli shotguns and all sorts of luxuries. Then you go and ask to hunt elk on the same parcel of land they expect some sort of payment. In the next few generations rich farmers will control most of the land and have their rich american friends over to hunt. I'm quite worried about the future for my kids and the generations after that.
If you wanna go and shoot geese do it in your own country. Hell most of them don't even eat them...just shot em and give em away.
 
Yup your right Scott..they also have these so called "Bed and Breakfasts" which are actually just illegal outfitting and guiding services.
 
As a die hard waterfowler, I prefer Americans and American outfitters in the area over local outfitters. Our local outfitter is the biggest two faced weasel you'd ever meet who thinks he owns every stitch of land between Alberta and Manitoba. His antics are starting to grow tiresome and locals are starting to get sick of him. The American guide who's nearby? Just a stand up fellow you can actually have a conversation with, and actually respects other hunters in the area.

You said it well,sounds like we know the same guy.
 
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Wonder if they have work permits ? if they are making money they claim or declare it? This is terrible and has to be changed..

Remember hunting regulations are provincial, immigration is federal with some scope for provincial influence.

It is easier for an American (or other foreigner) to get permission to come and operate a business, including a guiding/outfitting business, than to get permits to come here and take employment in a Canadian company. The income the business earns in Canada will be liable to taxation in Canada. It is fairly simple for an American to organise a hunting party in the U.S. and take the money there and come with them and guide them in Canada but it's illegal and the authorities here do go after them if they suspect that is going on. Americans who go to the trouble of setting up properly to provide guiding and outfitting in Canada are operating businesses that bring in foreign tourist spending and employ locals just as a Canadian owned operation will.
 
Americans own houses in my parents' town and some come up and spend a month in the local campground. They buy fuel, eat in the restaurant, they're friendly and don't cause problems. They even give geese away to people who want them (the lady at the Chinese restaurant cooks up a mean duck/goose supper - invitation only and free).

As the commercial used to say...tastes good, good for you, no downside.
 
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