***OFFICIAL*** FAMAE SG 542 SEMI-AUTO .308 is NON-RESTRICTED **ACCEPTING PRE-ORDERS**

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jimenez said:
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jimenez said:
For the 542-1:

-Barrel 4 grove 1:12 twist?
-Mag(s) included?
-Bipod included?
-Sling included or available?

Thanks for all your hard work pulling this one off boys!
Cant wait
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TI?
Do you guys know whats included with the rifle in the box?
Thanks
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Any progress on these questions about what going to be in the box? Accessory availability and pricing? Im just gonna keep asking every 7 months...
 
jimenez said:
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Any progress on these questions about what going to be in the box? Accessory availability and pricing? Im just gonna keep asking every 7 months...
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Barrel groove is 1:12
Comes with sling, magazine, cleaning kit, manual and sling. Bi-pod optionally available
 
ferrari308gts said:
It would be interesting to hear the truth about how/why this all happened, but I'm so not holding my breath.
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Back in July 2013 TI said
Tactical Imports said:
FYI our competitors are claiming that our rifles will not arrive for 12-18 months... Just to clarifiy with everyone that our rifles will be arriving the same time or prior to our competitors (we were promised manufacturing priority)
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It seems like the competitor knew what they were talking about.

Déjà vu TI?
 
Seriously TI,

I've had my deposit with you for over a year. Like everyone else who invested with you, I did so based on the above delivery assurances and what appeared to be a good deal regarding the overall price and accessories. My frustration with your inability to provide even a delivery date at this late juncture has finally reached the point where I am seriously considering a return of my deposit so that I can simply purchase one of the several SG542 rifles that I have seen and handled over the past several months in my local shops and indoor range. Can you finally provide a firm delivery date so that we investors can make an informed decision regarding our deposits? This situation has become ridiculous.

And while we're at it, how about a delivery date for the Skorpion that I also have a deposit on?!?

Thanks in advance for any firm, updated information that you can provide.
 
BlkMamba said:
Back in July 2013 TI said


It seems like the competitor knew what they were talking about.

Déjà vu TI?
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We can only pass on the information told to us by the manufacturer. If we were promised manufacturing priority, then that never happens what can we do? We figure the best we can do is sweeten the deal and provide a number of bonuses for the wait.
 
Bartok5 said:
Seriously TI,

I've had my deposit with you for over a year. Like everyone else who invested with you, I did so based on the above delivery assurances and what appeared to be a good deal regarding the overall price and accessories. My frustration with your inability to provide even a delivery date at this late juncture has finally reached the point where I am seriously considering a return of my deposit so that I can simply purchase one of the several SG542 rifles that I have seen and handled over the past several months in my local shops and indoor range. Can you finally provide a firm delivery date so that we investors can make an informed decision regarding our deposits? This situation has become ridiculous.

And while we're at it, how about a delivery date for the Skorpion that I also have a deposit on?!?

Thanks in advance for any firm, updated information that you can provide.
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Yes, things are out of hand. We were told these would come in almost year ago. Unfortunately things are out of our control; we can only pass on the information that are told to us by the manufacturer. Unfortunately Canadian civilians are low on the priority list when it comes to keeping large militaries and law enforcement agencies happy.

The latest news is that they will be shipped at the end of this month. We were told that things are just finishing up with assembly and that things are finally coming to an end.

For the Skorpion please refer to the Skorpion thread for the latest updates. ETA is week of 20th
 
Great news. At the risk of being called a shill, I/we/most of us appreciate the near or at cost price of extra mags, and the nitrided barrel as extras for the wait.
 
Tactical Imports said:
We can only pass on the information told to us by the manufacturer. If we were promised manufacturing priority, then that never happens what can we do? We figure the best we can do is sweeten the deal and provide a number of bonuses for the wait.
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Well, instead of deleting this post as you did my first one you decided to repsond. Even in responding you conveniently omitted

"FYI our competitors are claiming that our rifles will not arrive for 12-18 months... Just to clarifiy with everyone that our rifles will be arriving the same time or prior to our competitors (we were promised manufacturing priority)".

The above statement was the point of my post. Most people understand that you cannot be held accountable for events out of your control. What is interesting is that your competition not only was able to sell the rifles before you, but, that they were able to predict the time frame within which you would receive yours.
 
Tactical Imports said:
We can only pass on the information told to us by the manufacturer. If we were promised manufacturing priority, then that never happens what can we do? We figure the best we can do is sweeten the deal and provide a number of bonuses for the wait.
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I don't know, you could tell your customers about this, maybe? Rather than leaving people in the dark to do their own research about why they haven't got a gun that was promised a year ago? The delays aren't your fault, but the lack of communication and the end result of pissed off customers IS. So if they are ready at the end of this month, they certainly won't be here for October. Changed your website yet? (Nope, but expect that shortly.....).

Oh, and just for your future reference, having someone 'promise' you something doesn't mean #### in the business world unless you have it written up and gone over by lawyers, etc., etc. and there are financial penalties for the party that breaks the contract, etc., etc. You were naive to expect anything less than being ####ed over.

And BlkMamba isn't the only one who noticed you had deleted his post and avoided his question. Like he said, your competition seemed to be better informed about how this was going to go down than you were.
 
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Tactical Imports said:
Canadian civilians are low on the priority list when it comes to keeping large militaries and law enforcement agencies happy.
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Wow. This was something you learned within only the last year, though? Because their 'promises' which you 'just passed on' (!) wouldn't have amounted to much if you believed it while arranging the deal. And let's not forget that not just law enforcement and military contracts but OTHER CANADIAN CIVILIAN CONTRACTS were fulfilled before yours. Conveniently forgotten in your post. You guys just can't seem to come off as anything but disingenuous.

I'm getting the strong feeling we are not getting any sort of 'mea culpa' from TI any time soon.
 
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Generally if you come clean and tell the truth most people are more than forgiving. Look how often we see people lie and get themselves into a corner that it is almost impossible to get out of by lying, happens far to often.

Th truth will set you free.
 
TI is at the mercy of both FAMAE and the Chilean government.

He started the ball rolling getting FAMAE to sell to Canadians.
Directly to the Canadian public that is. No small thing to get FAMAE, a government manufacturer to change their policies.:rockOn:
He also publicly announced his future intention to get more things in.
I remember pre-ordering an SAF when everyone else said it could never happen.:eek:

Despite not going perfeclty, he is still working away.
As I have said, very much at the mercy of both FAMAE and the Chilean government.

Now I don't know how big a set up TI is and how much their financing and pull is in comparison to other competitors,,,
,,,but,,,
TI has in no way gone on a negative rampage against anyone else or pointed fingers and screamed accusations either.
He has remained positive and gotten on with trying to get this thing through.

Am I frustrated?
Absolutely, I dream nightly of having my own 540.
But I can also understand the paperwork nightmare that he endures and how much he is at the mercy of others over this too.
I can cut him some slack and save my beer bottle returns as I tap my foot in the mean time.
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Both of you completely missed the point of what we are saying: TI has been terrible about communicating what is happening. I have NEVER received anything from them about the changes in delivery dates. They 'announced' people could get their deposits back, where? On this thread? What if I'm not a member of CGN? Or I haven't found this thread? Guess I'm left wondering. And it's too bad poor TI is at the mercy of the Chilean government when their competitors weren't, apparently? They wine and dine FAMAE better when they made their deal? How did the competitors (which TI has #### talked about their claims, look it up) know when TI was going to get the rifles when TI didn't? Neither of you offer any rebuttal to our criticisms. But now we know how the TI cheerleading squad feels (real positive!) about the whole thing, so that makes me feel better.....TI is 'working away', but just not near a computer or smartphone with an email program with a cc function that could tell those who have put down money what the #### is happening.....
 
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ferrari308gts said:
Both of you completely missed the point of what we are saying: TI has been terrible about communicating what is happening. I have NEVER received anything from them about the changes in delivery dates.
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Okay-I see where you're coming from

They 'announced' people could get their deposits back, where? On this thread?
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Yes, on this thread. Someone got tired of waiting and (IIRC) bought one via ERE dealers for $2-300 more.

What if I'm not a member of CGN? Or I haven't found this thread?
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That's a good point, but there is always the phone (which I've done myself to see where things are at). See what they say. Ask for your $$ back if you aren't happy with the answer. Then you can decide to go public. Did you do that?

Guess I'm left wondering. And it's too bad poor TI is at the mercy of the Chilean government when their competitors weren't, apparently? They wine and dine FAMAE better when they made their deal? How did the competitors (which TI has #### talked about their claims, look it up) know when TI was going to get the rifles when TI didn't?
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I can't say 4 sure (only TI can do that, as it is their business), but just by looking at the roughly $200-300 per unit price difference (of the competition) over TI (at the time), I'd say/speculate that TI got put in the back of the line, as more money was to be made from "the competition".
This is the hard reality of the business world. People do get screwed over and strung along, both by suppliers and dealers from time to time.:(

Neither of you offer any rebuttal to our criticisms. But now we know how the TI cheerleading squad feels (real positive!) about the whole thing, so that makes me feel better....
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I don't know, I guess I'm just more easygoing than you are in this matter. I still think it's worth the savings on the initial rifle (plus free shipping),
and on the mags. So, I'm personally willing to wait more. I've waited as long (and canceled) for other dealers on CGN, who for whatever reason, couldn't come thru.:(

TI is 'working away', but just not near a computer or smartphone with an email program with a cc function that could tell those who have put down money what the #### is happening.....
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I think this was addressed above. Phone them/e-mail them/send a letter...:)
 
SQUAREHEAD1 said:
You do know that the nitrated barrel did not cost TI one solitary dime right? It's not an extra…
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Well, it is if nobody else in country offers it....otherwise it's disassembly and nitriding costs (if the barrel protection is deemed that important) over the initial rifle cost for those who don't go through TI.

Don't get me wrong. I may well eat my words if months from now, these rifles remain undelivered :(
 
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