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Hostile crowd here. It seems a few people consider this a major investment and are concerned that it won't mature for them

So.... are refunds being offered to those who don't want to wait anymore?

If not... then my offer is perfectly reasonable. I've seen pre-orders go wrong before, with a lot less money involved than is involved here.

I'm now reducing my offer to $2900
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Kid said:
Hostile crowd here. It seems a few people consider this a major investment and are concerned that it won't mature for them

So.... are refunds being offered to those who don't want to wait anymore?

If not... then my offer is perfectly reasonable. I've seen pre-orders go wrong before, with a lot less money involved than is involved here.
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was that from ordering your first SKS?
 
Kid said:
Hostile crowd here. It seems a few people consider this a major investment and are concerned that it won't mature for them

So.... are refunds being offered to those who don't want to wait anymore?

If not... then my offer is perfectly reasonable. I've seen pre-orders go wrong before, with a lot less money involved than is involved here.
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You don't even know what the order specs were? You are that interested you haven't taken the time to find out?

Yes, full refund if you back out. Next person in line gets the gun at cost.

If you are budging the line, you likely won't find anyone that will let you in at the retail cost.
 
Recce21 said:
Honestly, this should warrant a Ministerial Inquiry into why it has taken so long to classify. Like honestly. If not Arms East then perhaps one of us.
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Well... Let's look into the numbers.

The Type 97 NSR was approved as Non Restricted and the frt number published a year and a month ago. It's frt number is 142760.

Versions of the TNW M2HB were deemed converted autos yesterday. That frt number is 148947.

So in a year and one month that makes 6,187 frt entries. Some are brand new. Some are variations of guns already classified (like AR15 semi auto types but different brands).

In all, that is an average of 15.58 frt entries a day since the type 97 to the c/a TNW. Some of those are active examinations, and not yet published. That would include the RPD. Others are published and frt entries known.

Assuming a 40 hour government work week, that is about 2 frt entries every man hour. Not factoring in mandatory labour rule breaks.

And 148947 probably isn't the highest published frt entry, or open unpublished frt entries for pending classifications
 
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whoa whoa whoa......they deemed some of the TNW's C/A even though the receiver has been totally redesigned? WTF?
fenceline said:
Well... Let's look into the numbers.

The Type 97 NSR was approved as Non Restricted and the frt number published a year and a month ago. It's frt number is 142760.

Versions of the TNW M2HB were deemed converted autos yesterday. That frt number is 148947.

So in a year and one month that makes 6,187 frt entries. Some are brand new. Some are variations of guns already classified (like AR15 semi auto types but different brands).

In all, that is an average of 15.58 frt entries a day since the type 97 to the c/a TNW. Some of those are active examinations, and not yet published. That would include the RPD. Others are published and frt entries known.

Assuming a 40 hour government work week, that is about 2 frt entries every man hour. Not factoring in mandatory labour rule breaks.

And 148947 probably isn't the highest published frt entry, or open unpublished frt entries for pending classifications
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Recce21 said:
whoa whoa whoa......they deemed some of the TNW's C/A even though the receiver has been totally redesigned? WTF?
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Yup. Not all. But some. Some have been found to use at least one receiver wall out of a Canadian Arsenals Limited full auto receiver to make the semi auto receivers. If you have one with a CAL / Longbranch serial number, you got a converted auto prohib.

If the walls are all new, all 5 sides, it is NR under the original frt.
 
The whole converted auto prohib category is dumb as #### anyways so why am I not at all surprised that the losers at the RCMP have spent time and money putting another NR in the 12.3 category.......remember the last gang shoot out with an M2? Ya me neither....
fenceline said:
Yup. Not all. But some. Some have been found to use at least one receiver wall out of a Canadian Arsenals Limited full auto receiver to make the semi auto receivers. If you have one with a CAL / Longbranch serial number, you got a converted auto prohib.

If the walls are all new, all 5 sides, it is NR under the original frt.
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Recce21 said:
The whole converted auto prohib category is dumb as #### anyways so why am I not at all surprised that the losers at the RCMP have spent time and money putting another NR in the 12.3 category.......remember the last gang shoot out with an M2? Ya me neither....
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It won't be in the 12.3 category. It came in after, which puts its the outright illegal category, should it be one of the ones that is not still NR.

Legal in the US, which is why TNW does it. Here once a full auto always. Down in the ?US once it is cut up, it isn't a gun any more. Then you can resell it into a new semi auto only.
 
Well either way the RCMP is once again ####ing us.

So where is my RPD? My guess is they are currently busy trying to prohib it instead of just giving it the NR FRT that it warrants based on the law and design.
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It won't be in the 12.3 category. It came in after, which puts its the outright illegal category, should it be one of the ones that is not still NR.

Legal in the US, which is why TNW does it. Here once a full auto always. Down in the ?US once it is cut up, it isn't a gun any more. Then you can resell it into a new semi auto only.
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IMO, I think it's just the ultra-low gearing of a bureaucracy and a mountain of backlog to crawl over. I don't think its a conspiracy.
 
Kid said:
Hostile crowd here. It seems a few people consider this a major investment and are concerned that it won't mature for them

So.... are refunds being offered to those who don't want to wait anymore?

If not... then my offer is perfectly reasonable. I've seen pre-orders go wrong before, with a lot less money involved than is involved here.
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the problem is these rifles are going to arrive and can be sold immediately for more since the price they are coming in for is lower than any future rifles coming available from this importer.

If your offer was reasonable to bump the line and cash now with you rolling the dice with your money if the rifle never shows you might have some interested people. You current offer is not even enough to cover the current price people have paid
 
Update! NOT THE FRT. Sorry!

I do have something legitimately new to add and I am happy to add it.

We received a reply to our recent inquiries this afternoon. The reply included a request for further technical information. We are preparing our reply including the requested information.

So there you go! That's the update.

We look forward to seeing this through.

Best regards,
Walter
 
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