Kriss Super V issue - any owners out there?

They have recoil, it's just straight back into your shoulder. Very quick follow up shots due to the lack of muzzle rise.

Mine was 100% reliable once I learned not to use grease in the winter. I ran 3 or 4 types of factory ammo as well as handloads and all of it cycled fine.

Quite accurate as well, once I figured out holdover I could ring the gong at 200yds.
 
Shooter1of38 said:
"but with all these reports of issues with the Kriss."

Are you seriously referring to a stiff charging handle? (Which is normal) Is that all these "reports of issues"?


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No, I am talking about FTF and FTE.
 
cr5 said:
They have recoil, it's just straight back into your shoulder. Very quick follow up shots due to the lack of muzzle rise.
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Agreed. I was surprised at how little muzzle rise there was. With other blowback pistol calibre carbines like the Ruger PC9 there is a "clunk-clunk" feel to the recoil as the bolt and carrier cycle rearward and forward, but not so with the Vector. I sold mine earlier this year...but this thread has got me thinking that maybe I should pick up another. Here's a quick video of my old one from last November:

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bennypoo said:
I got mine and I thought it was stuck or broken. Helps to put pressure at the inside of the charge handle rather than the outer part of the handle. I also stripped and lubed (m-pro7)all the recommended parts and that made it a bit smoother.

I also read some guys had their vectors with the bolts back for 2 weeks so that it would loosen up the recoil spring.
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Tricky, until you get used to it. Pulling inward as you pull back makes it easier. Perfectly normal.
 
andrew3081 said:
How about the ammo? Is it picky on ammo or any ammo will work?
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andrew3081 said:
And poeple reported that the feeling of the recoil is different than a traditional rifle.. What is that suppose to mean?
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andrew3081 said:
I want to get a Kriss, but with all these reports of issues with the Kriss. I am a bit reluctant to get one.
I was hoping the issues would disappear, but it looks like there are still some problems.
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Are you even reading the posts in your thread? Everyone that has replied has said that their Vector has cycled everything.

Of course the recoil is different. Have you looked at a Vector? There is lots of info out there showing how the bolt system is set up, there is a large weight that reciprocates up and down when the bolt goes forward and back. This counteracts muzzle rise but it still has recoil just the recoil comes straight back into your shoulder and the muzzle stays on target.

I haven't heard of any problems in Canada, the only problems I read about were US ones and after some of the video's I watched of the guys in the US shooting their Vectors I'm not surprised. There were a couple where I was actually hoping the guy would shoot himself because there was no way he should have been allowed to handle a loaded firearm.

The stiff charging handle is not a problem, if you can't pull it back you probably aren't strong enough to support the rifle either.
Best bet is to go to an indoor range that has one for rent or find someone that owns one and try one for yourself.
They are a really cool little carbine and are surprisingly accurate.

If you're really that worried then you should buy the HK USC I have for sale on the EE. As accurate, maybe more accurate, traditional recoil impulse but still very easy to keep on target for quick follow up shots, HK reliable, light weight, easy to cycle with the charge handle, which also has the cool lock back like an MP-5, and I have lots of mags to go with it.
 
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Cr5, yes I am reading my own posts and other people's posts. There recent reports of issues of the Kriss Vector hence the questions. Also I was told the warranty centre for Kriss is North Sylvia in Canada? They are not exactly well known for good warranty service. There is a post on the Kriss forum saying that a gun from Canada has problem with his new vector and he is getting no support from the retailer/distributor/warranty centre.

The HK USC is ugly and the conversion to UMP is expensive. It is a better gun overall, but the price is not justified (for me anyways).
 
andrew3081 said:
Cr5, yes I am reading my own posts and other people's posts. There recent reports of issues of the Kriss Vector hence the questions. Also I was told the warranty centre for Kriss is North Sylvia in Canada? They are not exactly well known for good warranty service. There is a post on the Kriss forum saying that a gun from Canada has problem with his new vector and he is getting no support from the retailer/distributor/warranty centre.

The HK USC is ugly and the conversion to UMP is expensive. It is a better gun overall, but the price is not justified (for me anyways).
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What problems are you reading about?
Ya, North Sylvia don't have a good reputation for service after they have your cash.

The list of recommended ammo is right on the Kriss website
http://www.kriss-usa.com/compatible-ammunition

I couldn't find anything mine wouldn't cycle including 200gr handloads.
I even fed it Norinco crap as well as UMC yellow box cheap stuff and everything worked great.
 
My vector was flawless until I started using those crap KCI mags. The only issue I really had was that I lost a screw and tried to get a replacement from North Sylva and I might as well have pissed into the wind.
 
cr5 said:
What problems are you reading about?
Ya, North Sylvia don't have a good reputation for service after they have your cash.

The list of recommended ammo is right on the Kriss website
http://www.kriss-usa.com/compatible-ammunition

I couldn't find anything mine wouldn't cycle including 200gr handloads.
I even fed it Norinco crap as well as UMC yellow box cheap stuff and everything worked great.
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FTF and/or FTE.

And the warranty centre is a very big issue.
 
andrew3081 said:
FTF and/or FTE.

And the warranty centre is a very big issue.
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Use FMJ and it will feed anything you stuff down it's throat. The 200gr handloads I was feeding mine were JHP and even those never had any issues.
It's a pretty robust design, I can't imagine anything breaking, the moving parts in the rifle are all large overbuilt pieces. There really isn't much that can go wrong other than using crappy magazines or really poor ammo. Like I said, even Norinco bulk FMJ cycled without issue.
Worry less and buy more ;) No rifle is perfect, even buying a $3000 AR there is a chance you may get a dud but as long as it doesn't say Norinco on the side chances are you'll be taken care of.
Bad reputation or not, if you have an issue they really don't have much choice but to help you. Too much bad publicity will put a company out of business.
 
haha you can buy my kriss if you want! shot maybe 100rnds outta it and 75 of those were light primer strikes bla i've shelfed it for 1 1/2yrs now. My usc works like a charm but the 5rnd capacity is rediculious, i don't even shoot that anymore come to think about it haha xcr-tavor-t97 now those are FUN!
 
Shooter1of38 said:
There you go. Under no circumstance should you buy this gun. The interwebs said it may have problems, even though very few have been reported here.

No Kriss for you!
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It is not really about the gun problems. It is true that ALL guns have issues...that is the chance we all take when we buy anything.
The issue is what can be done after a problem has been identified.

Tavor are (was?) warrantied through North Sylvia but that is not an issue because well...it is a tavor, it just runs.
 
cr5 said:
I couldn't find anything mine wouldn't cycle including 200gr handloads.
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Mine is fairly picky with respect to ammo. I found Lawman ran flawlessly along with Blazer and American Eagle. It seems to like +P loads in particular.

TK-Hryciuk said:
My vector was flawless until I started using those crap KCI mags.
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That's because they're crap - stick to Glock OEM.
 
blaxsun said:
Mine is fairly picky with respect to ammo. I found Lawman ran flawlessly along with Blazer and American Eagle. It seems to like +P loads in particular.


That's because they're crap - stick to Glock OEM.
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Not trying to offend you Blaxsun but that's exactly what I was implying in my post. :confused:
 
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