25 Yard Freestyle Accuracy.....let's play a game.

I decided to use my Grand Power in the CQB match tomorrow, so went back to the range to adjust the sights. Got a better score with it. Dlask has these on sale right now for $329. It is worth double that.

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This little pistol always surprises me at how well it shoots.
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A good group, but the sight needs to be moved over a bit.
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FYI - You can get the same size targets at WallMart. Make ALLEN #1524CAN.

And, Ya, I still haven't made it to the range yet to verify my potential. Maybe Sunday?

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plinker 777 said:
Ganderite, you're almost as good a shot with a pistol as you are with a rifle! :)
Why are there stickers w/ instructions on your guns {no dry fire...}?
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I have a lot of guns. I am old and memory is not so hot. Each handgun gets labeled with the load that shoots best in it. The Star has a "NO Dry Fire" label on it because it happens to be prone to firing pin breakage. So far as I know it is my only gun with that problem. The label is supposed to remind me.
 
I've updated my first post, WP now has the title. Thanks for posting.

I really want to try the thinner Defoor sights but I'm shooting a Beretta now. I'm contemplating putting on a Dawnson FO, to get a thinner front than the Trijicons it wears now. I may upgrade the Hacks on my Glock for the Defoor's.

It really really blows that someone who can shoot as well as you has only been to the range once this year.

This is the score to beat guys!
 
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Is it half as cool if I've been twice?

Well, technically three times but once was for a course on shanking dudes and I didn't shoot anything. The other was to compete.


People always say that shooting is a perishable skill. I don't recall if you're on TPI but there's a great thread there on that subject...in my experience, this is only a little true. I can abandon the guitar for years, pick one up, and play at about 80% of my max ability, and shooting is not much different than playing guitar. The razor's edge of performance gets honed but I find that I can drop shooting for a year, dry fire for an hour or so, and run a sub 6 FAST every time. I might hone the edge but I don't need to regrind the knife.
 
Does this count for anything? 25yds with a M93. That's a desert plate.

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misanthropist said:
Is it half as cool if I've been twice?

Well, technically three times but once was for a course on shanking dudes and I didn't shoot anything. The other was to compete.


People always say that shooting is a perishable skill. I don't recall if you're on TPI but there's a great thread there on that subject...in my experience, this is only a little true. I can abandon the guitar for years, pick one up, and play at about 80% of my max ability, and shooting is not much different than playing guitar. The razor's edge of performance gets honed but I find that I can drop shooting for a year, dry fire for an hour or so, and run a sub 6 FAST every time. I might hone the edge but I don't need to regrind the knife.
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I'm not on TPI.

I think, and this is just my own personal thoughts, that accumulated practice may be why one may be able to pick up a pistol and perform at a higher level without having done much shooting for the past year.

I can barely do sub 6 second FAST's now. If I took a year off and then did an hour of dry fire, I would not be able to be even close to 6 seconds. But then, I've really only dedicated myself to learning to shoot two years ago, and really dedicated myself to pistol shooting in the last year or so.

My accumulated practice time and rounds down range is probably hundreds of hours and many thousands of rounds less than you, but many times more than most shooters on this board.

Sub 7 second FAST's are possible without having to spend thousands and thousands of rounds and time at the range. However, I've found that every 10th of second after you break 6 seconds is very hard fought. Consistent Sub 5 second FAST's indicated a rare dedication to shooting and natural talent. That's why I like the FAST so much.

IMO, if you can consistently pull off 5 second FAST's and are not shooting regularly, that is something special.
 
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This was from a GSG at 25yds.

I don't think the target meets your criteria and I can't vouch for the round count, maybe 25 or 30?

I need to reshoot this using your target criteria and 10 rounds only.

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I'm not on TPI.

I think, and this is just my own personal thoughts, that accumulated practice may be why one may be able to pick up a pistol and perform at a higher level without having done much shooting for the past year.

I can barely do sub 6 second FAST's now. If I took a year off and then did an hour of dry fire, I would not be able to be even close to 6 seconds. But then, I've really only dedicated myself to learning to shoot two years ago, and really dedicated myself to pistol shooting in the last year or so.

My accumulated practice time and rounds down range is probably hundreds of hours and many thousands of rounds less than you, but many times more than most shooters on this board.

Sub 7 second FAST's are possible without having to spend thousands and thousands of rounds and time at the range. However, I've found that every 10th of second after you break 6 seconds is very hard fought. Consistent Sub 5 second FAST's indicated a rare dedication to shooting and natural talent. That's why I like the FAST so much.

IMO, if you can consistently pull off 5 second FAST's and are not shooting regularly, that is something special.
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That's probably true. One of the things I got from Earl Green was in an offhand comment he made in a course I was in: move fast, shoot slow. If I don't shoot for a few months my trigger press slows down by quite a bit, maybe a tenth of a second after a few months, or .15 if I've really been lazing off. My draw will slow by a similar amount but proportionally it's a lot less. A bit of tune up and I'll usually run something like a second off a good FAST for me, because I've slowed down the first couple of trigger presses until they're half a second long instead of something closer to a third.

Anyway not that I want to drag this off into a chat about technique of course as it's an awesome thread of pics and numbers, but if I need to run a gun fast at an event coming up I'll par time some stuff with a shot timer app for an hour here and there in the week or so leading up and it's enough for me to shoot competently by my own standards, generally.

On the other hand, I spend about 4-5 hours a week doing fitness stuff, which has a massive spinoff benefit on shooting, and helps me to maximize the performance I can wring out of my slacker shooting schedule. I do a lot of medicine ball throws and bag work and I find that really helps that fast-twitch explosive movement stuff that makes for a fast draw and then a stable shooting platform.

Sorry for the hijack, I'll stop talking now.
 
Totally agree with your post. Fitness can't be understated in general shooting ability. It's something I'm ashamed to have neglected, but I am working to rectify.

I did some slow mo video's of my draw stroke recently. Just to prove a point regarding some detail I knew I was right about. I proved my point but I also discoverd that I jiggle like a bowl full of jelly. I'm postulating that if I can reduce the amplitude of the jiggling through proper diet and exercise, I'll shave .5 sec off my FAST.

Either that or prevent a stroke. :D
 
I printed out some of your 25 yard targets. I plan on being on a 25 yard range this week. The 10 ring measures about 3.3". That is quite a bit bigger than the 2.6" of the 20 yard target I have been using.

Maybe 25 yards will be easier?
 
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