The Modern Hunter Rifle UPDATED December 10 2015
- Thread starter alberta tactical rifle
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- calgary alberta
The problem I see with rear charge handle is when you put any decent sized optic on the charge handle becomes harder to manipulate. Also with the manner in which we retain the buffer and buffer spring precludes the use of a rear charge handle.
The whole point of the exercise was to NOT make just another AR variant that would inevitably be classed as restricted.
Using an unmodified AR bolt, charge handle etc would most likely result in it being deemed an AR variant.
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- calgary alberta
We plan to, but right now as so busy just getting these guns made we don't have time. There are only so many hours to work in a week, and believe me we ARE working all of them.
It's funny sometimes.... ATRS designs a beauty of a rifle so that it fits and functions extremely well and you get people saying "I want it to look like an AR10" or "I want it to look like a combat rifle" or... Ya want something that looks like an AR10? Buy an AR10.
If I could afford an ATRS Modern Hunter, I'd want it to look like an ATRS Modern Hunter... which, by the way, is a beaut! Great work guys.
If I could afford an ATRS Modern Hunter, I'd want it to look like an ATRS Modern Hunter... which, by the way, is a beaut! Great work guys.
I would love one. But it does not fit legally so well where I live. You see in NB and I believe NS and possibly others were stuck with a rather annoying hunting reg. If I used a Modern Hunter for say deer, everything is good. However once I shoot and tag the deer I cannot take that rifle to the woods again until next deer season for the most part. Our regs state that once a big game animal is tagged that it is unlawful to have a rifle of larger than .23 cal in the woods. So in NB if you want a year round rifle for hunting,camping, plinking, etc it better be under .23 cal. You can see how 223 and 22-250 rifle sales are high in NB. I am afraid I will have to sit and wait to see If a 223 model is developed, or see if you offer the current rifle with a 22-250 barrel. I seen a guy here convert a M305 to 22-250 so it might be possible.
Moe
Moe
A .223 model is planned, but it's years away in all likelihood.
However, a 22-250 caliber should work.
I'm no expert, but those calibers share the same bolt face, which means that theoretically you should be able to just get new barrel blank made up for that caliber. Maybe the extractor would have to be tweaked, I don't know.
I'm not sure if ATRS is planning on offering all those choices, the tooling for each caliber is probably pretty expensive.
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- calgary alberta
Not yet, they said max 8 weeks, it has been 3 since the received the final production unit.
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- calgary alberta
Stainless match grade barrel around the $900.00 mark
boss351cleveland
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- Down by the river
I think this rifle will sell very well as long as its reliable! The quality will be there from ATRS thats for sure, hope its more reliable than AR10 type rifles cause they are not the greatest, being a new rifle design is a good thing . Also having a all weather reliable semi auto that can run most types of ammo while having a match barrel is very difficult. I think there would be a market for a version with a cheaper lighter barrel ,looser chamber, maybe chrome lined!? for the plinker/brush gun people that can run crappy Norc and Russian ammo and use it in bad weather cold dirt ect.
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- calgary alberta
I can assure you that that the extremely low bar set by the XCR's has been grossly exceeded.
These ARE accurate and are as reliable as an AR.
I expect this to be a success. I'm looking forward to the first few owner's threads on handloaded ammo accuracy results. The Modern Hunter Magnum is a better fit for me; the accuracy will be fine in a hunting rifle, but the 308 leaves a bit to be desired power wise for me. Not slagging ATRS, I just don't require 0.5MOA (bolt gun) for hunting. Hopefully my budget and ATRS product development happen at the same pace and I can convince the wife I need ONE GUN TO RULE THEM ALL.
Quoted for awesomeness.
I am interested in the MH for sure, and I see one in my near future, but I DO feel the need to stick up for my XCR, which has always shot 1.5-2 MOA and has never had a failure of any kind. It's light (7.2 lbs) and has perfectly acceptable carbine accuracy. I think anyone ripping on the XCRs can't have tried one of the new gen ones.
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- calgary alberta
1.5 to 2.0 MOA is NOT what we would consider accurate at all. Sorry if I offended any XCR owners but really, is 1.5 MOA considered decent accuracy?
wouldn't that depend on the gun and what it's being used for? What would be considered as accurate , for a 3 to 4 grand hunting rifle? We haven't seen much proof , what yours does yet. I've been following this thread from the beginning , an will more than likely buy one of these rifles, if it shoots 1/2 inch groups.(after all , first and formost , it is a hunting rifle, right). And because I like the look of it.But buddy , as a business man , I've seen you say some stupid things, and if your goal is to sell a couple hundred of these babies , then keep talking. But if you want to sell thousands , you better hope no one else comes up with an alternative .
Hmmm. $2725 for the cheapest 308 XCR, and $2995 for the lighter version with keymods is not half the price of $3100 starting building price of the Modern Hunter... i would say that's 87% to 96% of the price.
If you choose to take advantage of ATRS's ability to provide various barrel and furniture options and pay more for those, then that is on you. Pay the additional costs for an XCR to get a CFW barrel and upgrades to its furniture and then compare apples to apples and carrots to carrots and whatever else you cook with.... but then again, most upgrades aren't compatible with XCR. never mind.
A $450 norinco m305 shoots 3-5 moa... a $2800 xcr shoots 1.5-2.5 moa... $3100 modern hunter appears to shoot sub moa... and its made right here in Canada.
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