Any Long Distance hunters here?

My rifle is sub moa. And I shoot supported at long range or I don't take the shot! Your little test makes no sense

Agreed, the thread was started by a gentleman that was interested in long range shooting and wanted some info on the subject, since this kind of shooting is normally done from a very solid resting position how well you hold off hand is not an issue.
 
On a good day I can hold ~6 moa from an offhand position with a heavy recoiling rifle and 6X scope. From a bench rest I can hold ~1 moa (out to 1100+ yards) on a day that I judge the wind correctly.
So, between 150 and 250yds (where most game is shot) , if not closer, an off hand shot is a gimmy. However, one must take full advantage of any situation presented and knowing your limitations will dictate what position you use or if you pass on the shot.
 
150-250 is not long range and if you don't take a shot off hand past those distances then your little offhand shooting test means zip.
 
they said the new "longest yardage max" for ethical hunting is now going to be limited and enforced to 300 yards. It's going to be in the 2015 hunting regs. Who here can master that and with what cartridge can you do it with? I'll be going with the 7mm-08 to a max of 200 yards. Eye sight and steadyability is weakening with my old age! What are you younger guys capable of?

I hope that's not the case, it would be stupid and unenforceable. Even though a 300 yards may be a worthy personal limitation for shooting game under ideal conditions, ethics are a personal matter that cannot be legislated. Why would it be unethical to shoot a deer at 350 yards with a scoped .280 Ackley, but by legislation, ethical to shoot at that same deer at 300 yards with an open sighted .44-40? Why would a quarter mile shot in bright, clear, no wind conditions, be unethical while shooting from 100 yards in an 80 click cross wind, that rocks you even in a supported kneeling or sitting position be ethical? Why is it ethical to mindlessly blaze away from 300 yards, but unethical to fire at an animal 536 yards away from a rock solid supported position, having frequently shot off season at long range in preparation for that moment. It makes no sense, its an armchair bureaucrat's wet dream, with no basis in reality. Hunter ethics are best left to those in the field. Hopefully Selinger is on his way out . . . soon.
 
I hope that's not the case, it would be stupid and unenforceable. Even though a 300 yards may be a worthy personal limitation for shooting game under ideal conditions, ethics are a personal matter that cannot be legislated. Why would it be unethical to shoot a deer at 350 yards with a scoped .280 Ackley, but by legislation, ethical to shoot at that same deer at 300 yards with an open sighted .44-40? Why would a quarter mile shot in bright, clear, no wind conditions, be unethical while shooting from 100 yards in an 80 click cross wind, that rocks you even in a supported kneeling or sitting position be ethical? Why is it ethical to mindlessly blaze away from 300 yards, but unethical to fire at an animal 536 yards away from a rock solid supported position, having frequently shot off season at long range in preparation for that moment. It makes no sense, its an armchair bureaucrat's wet dream, with no basis in reality. Hunter ethics are best left to those in the field. Hopefully Selinger is on his way out . . . soon.

I would not worry about it, two-dogs was just stirring the pot!
 
Arguably offhand is the most difficult position, if you can't do this then you must get closer, use a different position ( shooting sticks, cowboy hat, prone, hood of your truck)...whatever. So your limit may be different with what ever scenario is presented. YOU MUST KNOW YOUR LIMITATIONS

oh nope! That is illegal procedure in MB when shooting at a game animal! You can not use your vehicle in any way. Ole Jack himself told me that!;)
 
Good for a 425 yard offhand kill shot , practice gave the confidence and skill to pull it off. YMMV

Who'd be in for a BC "prove it" competition? I shoot LR quite a bit, we built a 1,000 yard private range and use it a lot. Yet to witness a shooter who can always hit a paper plate at 500 off hand with a hunting rifle, no misses no exceptions. 425 eh off hand and repeatedly... You are a god amongst hunters. ;) This I need to see, I transit through PG roughly monthly, open to a friendly?
 
Who'd be in for a BC "prove it" competition? I shoot LR quite a bit, we built a 1,000 yard private range and use it a lot. Yet to witness a shooter who can always hit a paper plate at 500 off hand with a hunting rifle, no misses no exceptions. 425 eh off hand and repeatedly... You are a god amongst hunters. ;) This I need to see, I transit through PG roughly monthly, open to a friendly?

That's one kill shot, one time! You seem to miss the point that practice at varying distances , from different positions, will in prove your skill and confidence for longer shots and sometimes when the situation presents you will have the knowledge that you can pull it off or not , kill zone on a moose is rather generous anyway.
Last year there was a shoot off between to shooters, 24"gong @1040yds offhand, 5 consecutive hits to 4, it wasn't me but a guy with a wood and blue hunting rifle, he won it the year before with 3 consecutive shots.
 
OP starts a legit thread, most responses are just goofing around, some guys share their experience, then others trash them. Way to go guys, another thread gone to H:S:
 
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