Fake Firing Pin

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I know this is right out of a movie, Shooter, and we shouldn’t believe everything we see from Hollywood. But has anyone ever thought of actually doing that? To store a rifle with a false firing pin, altered in some manner so that the rifle won’t fire.

First off, I would like to state that I wouldn’t ever consider doing such a thing in an attempt to appease the law. I am actually perfectly content in doing the bare minimum that the law requires with full knowledge that IF anything were to ever occur I (and anyone) would most likely be charged under storage laws anyways as the law tends to like to lay sweeping charges. And storage laws do tend to be a favourite.

But no, this question isn’t about that, rather it’s for very practical reasons. With children concerned, either my own or nieces and nephews, it actually does sound like a good idea. No matter how much you trust your kids, and education is definitely a good thing. They will one day make friends, become teens, and learn to have parties and drink a few wobbly pops. And a drunk teen may find it a good idea to play with a few cool looking guns… but I have yet to find a drunk teen that can machine a firing pin.

So… thoughts from anyone? Does anyone use this sort of method to store their weapons?

And I didn’t even mention the government trying to frame me with the assassination of a prominent world leader!
 
And 2 years from now you will be posting, "where can I buy a firing pins for my....?". Sounds way too overboard for me, trigger lock and a good gun safe and of course educate your kids.
 
If you watched the movie, it wasn't a fake, but a firing pin that was shorter, so wouldn't strike the primer. Thus his comment, would need a mic.

Guess your REALLY going to bother stripping the bolt, fight and curse for over 30mins all for what? Easier to remove the bolts and throw them in a lock box, then question. IS the proper firing pin in it or not? then play Russian roulette.

Daddy changed the firing pin, so I can do this...BOOM BILLY...If they got access to your guns while they are drinking theres worse issues there.
 
If its a bolt action, take out the bolt.
Much easier.
I don't do the legal min, I do the min that is safest for my house and it exceeds the law.
So yeah, Ammo is locked up in a separate container, all my firearms have combo trigger locks, all in a locked cabinet.
 
My kids are young enough now that I am content with a system of key locks and hard cases.

Once they get old enough, I will be switching everything into a giant vault-like safe with a PIN/fingerprint, and a couple handgun fingerprint safes around the house.

If your primary concern is your kids getting access to things, that risk can be mitigated with a bio safe, unless you're really worried that your kids would cut your hand off one day.

(Understood that there has been a recent story of stealing fingerprints from high-res photos).
 
No, nobody stores their guns like that. Responsible adults lock their gun so they cant be accessed by people they dont want them too and if your worried your kid my try and break into your safe then I suggest you look else where then a fake/shorter firing pin to solve your issue.
 
1000yards said:
I don't do the legal min, I do the min that is safest for my house and it exceeds the law.
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I really like how you put that. And that is what matters in the end.

I like the comments so far. That's why I posted. But allow me to fuel it a little more here. On one side we have people mentioning that to get a $20 firing pin and shaving it down is overboard. But viable alternatives are all sorts of vaults and safes. Then comes the argument of pride and display. And don't tell me that no one wants to show off their shiny toys... it's why a lot of people have nice and colourful stocks, take all the pictures and some of us have even specially designed safe rooms for storage complete with couches and tv's.

I am trying to add a touch of devil's advocate.
 
FF57 said:
I really like how you put that. And that is what matters in the end.

I like the comments so far. That's why I posted. But allow me to fuel it a little more here. On one side we have people mentioning that to get a $20 firing pin and shaving it down is overboard. But viable alternatives are all sorts of vaults and safes. Then comes the argument of pride and display. And don't tell me that no one wants to show off their shiny toys... it's why a lot of people have nice and colourful stocks, take all the pictures and some of us have even specially designed safe rooms for storage complete with couches and tv's.

I am trying to add a touch of devil's advocate.
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Yes we do like to show off our shiny toys, but on our terms in our control those fancy guns rooms you see have alot that you dont see that makes them equal or better then a gun safe and yet again the room is under the control of the owner.
 
Lots of idiots have done that or complete bolts, over the years. If I had a dollar for every email or call asking for a bolt or fireing pin , due to being lost when stored. I'd be a rich man.
 
FF57 said:
I really like how you put that. And that is what matters in the end.

I like the comments so far. That's why I posted. But allow me to fuel it a little more here. On one side we have people mentioning that to get a $20 firing pin and shaving it down is overboard. But viable alternatives are all sorts of vaults and safes. Then comes the argument of pride and display. And don't tell me that no one wants to show off their shiny toys... it's why a lot of people have nice and colourful stocks, take all the pictures and some of us have even specially designed safe rooms for storage complete with couches and tv's.

I am trying to add a touch of devil's advocate.
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Not that I'm advocating such a ridiculous practice, but, why on earth would you SWAP the firing pin? Why not just remove it entirely? You gotta have a damn keen eye to look at a firearm on display and be able to tell there's no firing pin. Or am I missing something?
 
badboybeeson said:
Lots of idiots have done that or complete bolts, over the years. If I had a dollar for every email or call asking for a bolt or fireing pin , due to being lost when stored. I'd be a rich man.
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Um... <Scratching head> But... You're a dealer... You DO make a dollar every time someone calls you about that... So...

;-P
 
Only time I would do something like that is as some kind of sting operation.

As far as keeping it safe for kids, much easier parts to remove, usually takes half a second to remove bolts from bolt actions, pop the uppers off AR, get slides off pistols, take barrels off shotguns.

I would not want to condition the kids to an invisible safety like a short firing pin. Much too likely that one day they'll be goofing around when they think the gun is safe, when in fact it's not.
 
shhh said:
You must have a very dangerous home if you think you need to do that. Perhaps get rid of your guns?
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I don't trade convenience for safety.
I also keep the bleach in the garage instead of on the floor of the living room, so by your logic, It must be too dangerous to clean?

I will always take all the measures I can to protect those I love, and when you have some that are a bit too young to know better, you go the extra bit to reduce the risks around the house.
 
FF57 said:
No matter how much you trust your kids, and education is definitely a good thing.
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Beyond a doubt. Anyone with more than 2 brain cells to rub together knows this. I trained my children intensely in gun safety and gun handling from the time they learned to walk. Guns were never forbidden and they could touch and handle all they wanted. I was proud that when they were in their early teens they would teach and supervise some of their friends shooting, with me in the background, happy that I couldn't have done better.

No stupid and extraordinary storage measures taken at our residence.
 
1000yards said:
I don't trade convenience for safety.
I also keep the bleach in the garage instead of on the floor of the living room, so by your logic, It must be too dangerous to clean?

I will always take all the measures I can to protect those I love, and when you have some that are a bit too young to know better, you go the extra bit to reduce the risks around the house.
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I think that "shhh" fellow just misread your post. I think he thought you meant you remove the firing pins from your guns?

Either way. Kudos for being a good dad and keeping the wee ones safe.
 
shhh said:
You must have a very dangerous home if you think you need to do that. Perhaps get rid of your guns?
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If that was said as a sarcastic joke. In a way to poke fun of "big brother" not wanting us to have firearms... then please, add emoticons or something next time.

Otherwise... Wow.

I'm trying to spark a somewhat intelligent (I would hope) conversation about potential ideas. Hoping for intelligent feedback (such as the Russian Roullette thought). We don't need to flame each other when someone posts what they think. That does nothing but encourage us to stay silent and not work together on anything. Imagine if every reloader that has experienced a Kaboom was too shy to post his misfortune (or mis-guidance) however you choose to look at it. We would not have any of these grim reminders, and potentially that many more people out there thinking it was a happy go lucky, risk free hobby.

No. Lets encourage free speech and thought. And communicate.

Doing otherwise is just one step closer to big brother getting rid of all our guns.
 
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