Tavor or RA XCR-I need your thoughts on which and why.
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Moparman1303
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I hate that thumb hole stock. How much to get a better stock and I want to use ar mags or pcv 50 cal mags.
I have a Tavor, ACR, and XCR-L. I love all three, but the one big advantage of the XCR-L is that you can easily set it up to shoot several calibers, which is nice. If that doesn't matter to you, you'll likely be happy with any of the three.
Moparman1303
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Do you still have to check barrel lug, etc pins to come out? Or are the new ones fixed.
To me, the strip of the XCR is far superior to a Tavor. If I can't break a semi-auto rifle down easily, it's a strike against it. Not a deal-killer mind you, but I do like how easily the XCRs break down and field strip. The inside of the receiver is a lot more accessible too.
Coupled with the fact that for just a bolt and a barrel you have another cartridge you can shoot - that's a big plus. The optic would have to be re-zeroed with a calibre change for longer range shooting, but my buddy's XCR-L the receiver mounted scope actually maintains less than a 2" PoI shift between calibre changes out to 150 or so meters (at least between .223 and 7.62x39 anyways). More than that and he has to re-zero though.
Coupled with the fact that for just a bolt and a barrel you have another cartridge you can shoot - that's a big plus. The optic would have to be re-zeroed with a calibre change for longer range shooting, but my buddy's XCR-L the receiver mounted scope actually maintains less than a 2" PoI shift between calibre changes out to 150 or so meters (at least between .223 and 7.62x39 anyways). More than that and he has to re-zero though.
I had to snug some things down after my first range trip with each of my XCRs, but they've both been tight since then. There is some degree of truth to the 'loctite' reputation of the XCR, I suppose.
What's far superior in the field stripping of the XCR compared to the Tavor? On the Tavor, you pop out the top pin on the butt and the whole bolt carrier group comes out...done. What can be easier than that? Pop another couple of pins and the trigger pack pops out...not that I've ever needed to do anything with it.
I had the exact same decision to make as you. When I read you post, I could swear that I wrote it myself. I shoot a lot of 3 gun matches. I went back and forth a long time and ended up with the Tavor. I really like the XCR and I probably will buy one one day. The major thing that tipped the scale for me was the over all length. I really like the concept of the bull pup design. I bought mine new from the Calgary Shooting Centre for $2,300 so the price was no issue. The XCR does have a few quirks which shouldn't scare off any buyer, Wolverine is awesome with helping you out with any questions or problems. That alone was a big factory on why I still want an XCR for my collection.
Do you want a small compact design or a long riffle? Good luck. You'll probably be happy either way.
Do you want a small compact design or a long riffle? Good luck. You'll probably be happy either way.
Moparman1303
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I had the exact same decision to make as you. When I read you post, I could swear that I wrote it myself. I shoot a lot of 3 gun matches. I went back and forth a long time and ended up with the Tavor. I really like the XCR and I probably will buy one one day. The major thing that tipped the scale for me was the over all length. I really like the concept of the bull pup design. I bought mine new from the Calgary Shooting Centre for $2,300 so the price was no issue. The XCR does have a few quirks which shouldn't scare off any buyer, Wolverine is awesome with helping you out with any questions or problems. That alone was a big factory on why I still want an XCR for my collection.
Do you want a small compact design or a long riffle? Good luck. You'll probably be happy either way.
I got a two point VCAS sling i would be using. Do you find with the tavor its easy to shoot past 100 yards? I just want this gun to be my go to for everything. I do like the XCL-R for its ability to change calibers quite easily. I like how its pretty ARish. I just wish I could shoot both. If NEA does come out with a AR180B type rilfe, i will probably buy that. Its a hard decision. Lot of cash on the line. I want to be able to shoot 5.56mm 62 gr or bigger ammo. I am worried with XCR-L 1/9 twist.
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I own a Tavor and love the rifle for its short, compact package. Its true battle tested and can definitely take a beating! It shoots straight and has a huge up and coming aftermarket inventory. Saying that, if you already like the AR and are familiar with it, the XCR will feel much more AR like than a Tavor especially in ergonomics and the trigger.
I like the Tavor more but I would recommend the XCR to you
Shooting past 100 yards. It depends on your body position. If you're standing unsupported, I find the Tavor really easy and stable with the Israeli 6 points of contact (hand guard on the support hand forearm is awesome). When I went back the the AR I found myself trying to find a way to get that extra stabilization with my support forearm.
With my longer AR, and the XCR little front heavy, standing unsupported with a little cross wind, it's a little harder to keep the sights perfectly still. If you're shooting off a bench or prone off a bi-pod, AR-XCR wins hands down. You can put a bi-pod on the Tavor and it works well, you just have to buy the rail for $50-60 bucks.
Here are a few reasons I bought an XCR-L and I just received another three 7.62X39 10 round XCR pistol mags in the mail today.
I have complete uppers in 223 & 6.8SPC and zero interest in a Tavor.
From a couple years ago
Life and interests are always changing I've had this setup for 5 years now been thinking I may pass it on to someone that would like to explore the excellent world of non restricted semi-autos.
In other words I'm thinking that I may sell it and put the money back into a long range 1000 yard + hunting rig.
I have complete uppers in 223 & 6.8SPC and zero interest in a Tavor.
From a couple years ago
Life and interests are always changing I've had this setup for 5 years now been thinking I may pass it on to someone that would like to explore the excellent world of non restricted semi-autos.
In other words I'm thinking that I may sell it and put the money back into a long range 1000 yard + hunting rig.
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I prefer the XCR only because it feels AR 15 "like"....mag release and safety are almost the same, and the grips can be swapped out. Mag changes are instinctively the same....etc. I bent a firing pin in my XCr...fixed it temporarily until parts came in. Loctite was needed once...runs like a champ...very fast cycling....the bolt is a bit lighter than an AR BCG. I can run weak Tulammo on setting 2,..and leave it on setting S or 1 for everything else.
BTW,...it loves the Hornady 53gr Superformance ammo....great groupings.
BTW,...it loves the Hornady 53gr Superformance ammo....great groupings.
