All Around Load for 150 gn 308?

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Does anybody out there, who has played a lot with 308s, have a load that seems to universally work in most rifles with 150 gn Nosler BT bullets.
I have a couple iron sighted lever guns in 308, that I'm not too interested in working up loads for and wondered if anyone has come across a load that just seems to work in all guns. I know I have a couple 243 loads like this and a 30-06 load and a 7RM load, but have never played enough with the 308.
 
I've settled on 46.5 grs of 4064 with a 150 Nosler Partition. Warmish, but not quite max. in my rifle. I'm getting 2730 average from an 18" barrel Ruger RSI.
 
Been loading Hornady's 150 Interlocks for five 308's.

Ruger M77
Stevens 200
BLR
Winchester Model 100
Ruger American

IMR 4320 ---------- 45.8gr

Seems to work as intended.
 
What is your 30-06 load??

That load is 56 gns of 4350 behind a 180 bullet seated to book COAL in Win brass with CCI 200. Every '06 I've tried likes or loves this load and varying the bullet jump can tune it right in, in almost any rifle. Back a couple months there was a similar question about the '06 and at least 4 experienced people gave the same load data, give or take a grain of powder.
 
I would like to use Varget as I just acquired 5 lbs of it and I've been hearing rumors that it is noted for being particularly accurate in 308s..........true/false? I also have 1000 150 gn old Nosler solid base bullets that I thought given the fact I have 5-600 308 brass I should load some up for my 99C and my 88...........just in case..........you know anarchy, zombie apocalypse, whatever. It never hurts to have a few hundred loaded for every rifle one owns.
 
...not too interested in working up loads for...

It's not a good idea to just throw in a handload without working up a bit from below. I agree that some loads are excellent in a wide range of firearms, but every rifle is different and some develop excessive pressures even with factory loads.

I will tell you that Varget is one of the best possible choices for your application, and there is a load out there that is pretty close to universal with 150 to 155-grain bullets in STRONG BOLT ACTION rifles. (I won't give you this load, however, because it is near max in strong bolt rifles, and you've indicated that you don't plan to work up.) All I'll say is consult the Hodgdon specs and you'll find the sweet spot somewhere between 44 and the maximum listed load of 47 grains.
 
Actually p-17, my books list up to 49 grns of Varget with a 150 gn bullet, and nowhere does it say to exclude Win 88s or Sav 99s nor does say "Only for strong bolt action rifles" I have also never once read such a disclaimer on a box of factory ammo, so one must conclude that they are suitable for all firearms so chambered. no?
You are not conversing with a newbie to loading in fact I've been at it for over 40 some odd years, so I know all the safety protocols and all the do's and don'ts of reloading...........I also know there are a lot of high volume reloaders for the 308 and I'm sure some of them have standardized a 150 gn load that shoots within the pressure limits of the 308 and is inherently accurate in a number of rifles.
I can also tell you that my "worked up" loads for my bolt guns generally end up several grains over any book you may wish to look at. They are safe in my rifles that they have been tested in and that is all that matters for me, but I do not intend to use these loads that I have worked up for the 2 bolt 308s that I have in my lever guns..........Hence the question in the original post.
Another reason is that I have test loads for approximately 20 rifles on the "test load" shelf and I really don't have it in me to work up a generic load for a couple iron sighted leverguns..............

Anyway I loaded all 350 cases tonight with a mid-range load of Varget, (I checked all my manuals and came up with a good middle-of-the-road average) Win large rifle standard primers, R-P, FC, and 100 military IVI 73 cases and 150 gn Nosler solid base bullets seated to a recommended generic 2.80 COAL.
They fit both magazines with a bit to spare and I'll have to see what the weather tomorrow brings, but I may just take the old girls out and sight 'em in. I think I'll have to try these loads in my scoped bolt guns as well, to see how good they might be...........maybe I got lucky for once...............
 
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Actually p-17, my books list up to 49 grns of Varget with a 150 gn bullet, and nowhere does it say to exclude Win 88s or Sav 99s nor does say "Only for strong bolt action rifles" I have also never once read such a disclaimer on a box of factory ammo, so one must conclude that they are suitable for all firearms so chambered. no?

Well, I've been loading Varget in .308 target rifles for 15+ years myself, and I've never been able to go much beyond 47 grains in any rifle without getting pressure signs. I'll accept Hogdon's data on this point because it corresponds with my own experience.

In any event, I don't know any TR or Palma competitor who pushes much beyond 47 grains of Varget with a 155, even in a super-strong action like an RPA or Barnard. It may be possible, but why bother pushing that envelope? If it works for you, that is great, but I certainly wouldn't recommend it on a public forum.

As for autoloaders and levers, virtually all loading manuals that I have encountered have stated clearly that, when loading for levers and autoloaders, you often can't achieve maximum book loads because they stretch the brass more, due to their different type of lock-up, causing extraction problems with those particular action types. This is because bolts that lock up at the front and require the bolt handle to be manually lifted to open are much tighter and have much more camming power to extract fired brass than levers and autoloaders. This is why small base dies were invented -- to give extra resizing for cases that are going to be fed into autoloaders and levers. In my experience, even brass resized in regular FL dies sometimes has difficulty chambering in autoloaders -- even with moderate loads.

The reason why FACTORY ammo functions in all rifles is because it has to. The brass is virgin and is sized down even smaller than you get with small base dies. The companies use powders and components that won't push the limits on pressure, often producing ammo that does not actually achieve full SAAMI pressures, in order to make sure that it will be safe to fire and extract in all manner of firearms.

I hope your loads work out for you. In my experience Varget always gives acceptable results in the .308 but some loads are better than others. I don't expect you'll have any trouble finding a load that works well for most purposes.
 
Accuracy loads in manuals are good for cartridges/rifles you don't care about too much.
45.0 of IMR4895(2777 fps) is given in my old Lyman book for a 150. So are 49.0 of Bl-C2(2915 fps) and 44.0 of IMR3031(2800 fps).
Factory Dup is 48.0(C) of IMR4064(2890 fps). Verify all that in your manual. My old Lyman is the 45rd Edition.
 
My load for my 1576 Anschutz is 47 grains of 4064 and a 155 SMK. I cant remember the bullet # off the top of my head, but there are two Palma bullets and I use the old one. By substituting a 150 Sierra flat-base it became the hunting load as well in a few different .308s. 45 grains of IMR 4895 is a standby as well.

I will often work up a load for one rifle in a caliber, then just use it in the others. It keeps life simple.

A couple of standbys are 50 grains of Varget and what ever 165 grain bullet I want in the 30-06, and 80 grains of H1000 and a 180 NBT or Accu-bond in the .300 Win. If a rifle wont shoot those you may as well find out whats wrong with it.
 
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