Sold a 10/22, buyer says it's too inaccurate- RESOVLED! Post 88

Just because you sold someone a used rifle, you are under no obligation to teach the buyer how to use it properly. My answer would be;

"Thats unfortunate, to the best of my knowledge there is nothing wrong with the rifle, if you disagree please return it and I will refund the purchase price."

I would rather refund the purchase and check out the rifle myself, then resell it once any possible issues are resolved, rather than try to diagnose a possibly non-existent problem long distance.
 
I grew up shooting a Winchester bolt action 69a maybe? A Winchester bolt action anyway....

I bought a 10/22 and it made me sick. That's the way it is. Get used to the bigger targets.
 
Only once have I had an issue with a sold gun...4 months after getting it, the purchaser got back to me about issues with the gun. I paid for it's return with total refund and the rifle came back...with no trigger on it, and plenty of evidence it fired left in the barrel! I've also recently received a rifle that the owner neglected to mention he'd monkey filed the rear sight (off on both axis). Their response to inquiry regarding it was "as far as I'm concerned the deal is done". There are no absolutes in sales online.

In this case (resisting temptation to bash a 10/22), the rifle has been more than just fired. Swapping stocks, adding optics, removing optics etc...any of those events could affect the current owners ability to group. What to do now depends more on you than the gun itself. Put everything to date on the personal scales, and see which way they tip.
 
Grouse Man said:
Sorry to say it, but that's his problem, not yours.
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I totally agree, and I wouldn't entertain the idea of returning it. Advertise it for what it is, and that's all you can do. You don't know his level of skill or ability for trouble shooting (scope walking/loose rings/poor ammo/shakes like a leaf) which is where most problems are I believe.
 
I would say it is shooter error. And accuracy is subjective. Some people are happy to smell powder and hear a bang. other people expect a rat hole at 100yards.
A take down .22 is not likely to be a tac driver. it is meant to be packed and assembled for occasional use.
He bought it from you knowing full well what it was. and like someone else said, if he wanted something "accurate" drop more $$

if he cant hit a pop can at 50 yards, he cant shoot. not your problem!
 
Tough noogies! It is reasonable to expect that a used firearm is being sold "as is" per the seller's description. An accuracy warranty from the seller of a used rifle is a completely unreasonable expectation.

I doubt you would even get any warranty satisfaction from Ruger for a new rifle that was innacurate.
 
Has anyone suggested trying a few different brands of ammos... Ya I know...LOL.

For example.... Not a .22, but... I recently bought a new CZ in .17HMR.
I bought some CCI ammo and some Hornady.

The CCI groups... Disappoiting.
The Hornady... Impressive.

I don't know why.
The specs on the ammo are the same... IT's just the way it is.
 
How about this:

I am confident there is nothing wrong with the gun. You bought it at your own risk. If you wish to return it and get your money back. I will take it at 20% less for my trouble and you pay shipping. Seems fair to me.
 
I'd ask the guy what exactly he means that it won't group. As other have pointed out, the 10/22 isn't exactly known for its accuracy. There's a reason why so many get modded with new and better barrels.
 
1000yards said:
Any ideas or suggestions would be great, was pretty shocked when I got his message.
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I guess it depends on whether he wants to be helped or if he wants his money back. You need to ask to make sure. If he wants his money back and if you want him to be happy then have him ship it back at his cost and after you inspect it, send him his original payment back less shipping. If he wants help making it accurate, that is not your responsibility and it could go on and on. Those guns are not super-accurate out-of-the box and if he expected as much, that is on him. He can search the forums just like anyone else. Tell him about the ammo you used and leave it at that. Just my opinion. Good luck.
 
Some excellent responses here. It's an unfortunate situation, but I'd ask the buyer what he considers to be inaccurate. If accuracy is your goal, a bolt action (pick one) is a way better choice...as most of us know. I personally wouldn't jump at the thought of taking it back unless you know in your heart of hearts that there was something wrong with it to begin with. If the buyer is a CGN member and frequents the rimfire forum, I'm not sure how he/she could have missed the countless comments about these guns not being accurate. They're plinkers in their stock form, especially the take-downs from my personal experience.
 
So I have heard back from him, he switched the stock and used a vortex scope, it had never had a scope on it before so I'm worried about the rail from factory, he tried a few different types of ammo and had tried a bore sighter and iron sights.
Asked if he tried adjusting the tension ring. He says he tried it off a rest and tried cleaning it. Had a fellow with him that is more familiar with rifles also.
I had it posted on this forum and a local outdoors one too and it sold on the other one so I am not sure if he is on here also or not.
His explanation of the groups is a bit hard for me to understand, but it sounds like he was using a 3 inch target and tried a 16x16" piece if cardboard and was getting some fliers that were not even hitting that at 25m

Asked him how I can resolve it to his liking and I'll go from there.
I'll go from there and see, thanks for the suggestions and help!
 
Did you make any promises when you sold it? If not, wash your hands of the situation. I would be very hesitant of taking back the rifle at this point. You have no idea what he has done to it. For all you know he has damaged it by trying to get it to shoot. If you refund 100% of his money upon return, you may very well get stuck with a mangled rifle. If you honestly don't know of any mechanical issues prior to sale, you can sleep well at night knowing you have done nothing wrong. My suggestion would be to respond with a nice email explaining that the rifle was fine when it shipped out, you have no knowledge of anything out of order, and it is unfortunate that his expectations exceed the performance of the rifle, but there is nothing you can do about that.
 
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