LaRue Stealth: Least Reliable AR-15 Yet Nutn

-[Crosshair]- said:
If any of you bothered to actually watch his video, he sent his rifle to Larue the first time completely stock. When it came back and nothing was fixed he then started to troubleshoot the upper. Installing new parts, etc. Drilling the gas port was a last resort and that's what he ended up doing after Larue sent his rifle back for a second time without fixing the issue. Weirdly enough, that fixed his problem, which was an undergassed rifle. If I have a problem with a firearm that I own and the manufacturer couldn't fix it after sending it to them two times, I would've done the exact same thing NutnFancy did: Fix it my damn self.

You guys should actually watch his video instead of assuming bull*** and sucking a big company name's d*** like everybody over at arfcom. The topics I saw there about his video was pretty much what I expected would happen on those forums: Everybody sucking Larue's d*** without even watching NutnFancy's video and then blaming ammo or the operator because of the name. Really? You don't want to watch his 45 minute video? Then keep your fingers off of your keyboard, it's as simple as that. I don't watch NutnFancy's reviews because I also can't be arsed for how long they are but I watched his video about the Larue upper after every stupid post I kept seeing online and Larue didn't fix his upper, twice. It just so happened that his gas port was a little bit too small and he fixed it after trying everything else. He even kept all the paperwork from the day he bought the upper to both times he sent the upper at Larue to get it looked at with no success. He's been doing a lot of shooting since he fixed the upper and says in the video that he loves it because it is now 100% reliable and very accurate. I don't want to defend NutnFancy but I have to say that he's very thorough and unbiased in his reviews. Even though it's a OMFG LARUE!!!111oeonnoen upper he waited years before uploading that video and gave Larue the chance to fix his upper. Twice. They didn't.

S**t can happen for everybody, even for Larue. I've had my share of overgassed or undergassed barrels and it can happen. What ticked him off the most in his video is the fact that he sent it back to Larue twice with no results. Any number of things could have been the cause of his gas port being too small but we'll never know. It was too small, he opened it up and fixed it after Larue had opportunities to look at it, end of story.
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I actually don't care much for larue, rifles or mounts. And Mark is a loudmouth.

But nutn is even a bigger goof. Drilling out a gasport is the last thing in the world you should do when having problems with a AR platform as there is many things more likely to be causing the problem.

Your rant = 7/10
 
-[Crosshair]- said:
Did any of you actually watched the video?

That's what I thought.

The gas port on his barrel was too small. He sent the rifle TWICE to Larue and they didn't do #### and sent him back his rifle with nothing fixed. He fixed it himself by drilling the gas port.

Are Larues the least reliable rifles? No, but even with the best manufacturers you can get defects and things that slip out of QC.
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I worked as a factory technical rep many years ago in a totally unrelated field.
If somebody sent in a piece of equipment which they claimed didn't function correctly we would test it. Sometimes we wouldn't find anything wrong.
We would confirm that everything was built to specifications and send it back out.

If he was testing it in sub zero temps and didn't mention this to Larue they may never figure out what the problem is when they test the rifle in Texas.
Their gas port size may correct per their engineering team.
 
cp220 said:
But nutn is even a bigger goof. Drilling out a gasport is the last thing in the world you should do when having problems with a AR platform as there is many things more likely to be causing the problem.
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It was the last thing he did. It was sent to the manufacturer twice and he replaced other parts and tried different mags, ammo, temps etc. Then finally when all other options were exhausted he checked to port hole and drilled it out.
 
thump_rrr said:
If he was testing it in sub zero temps and didn't mention this to Larue they may never figure out what the problem is when they test the rifle in Texas.
Their gas port size may correct per their engineering team.
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Anyone who watched the whole video would know he tested it in a variety of weather/temps. Those that bailed after the first few minutes would have just seen the winter scenes at the beginning. This was a Larue fail.
 
i don't mind his reviews..but his recent review of the HK VP9, stating it was a clone of the Walther is b.s... THe VP9 is a reworked HK P30 series, with a striker fired trigger system. Better or totally adjustable ergonomics with the HK, better cocking serrations and hammer forged barrel make the HK more desirable than the Walther.
 
-[Crosshair]- said:
If any of you bothered to actually watch his video, he sent his rifle to Larue the first time completely stock.

You guys should actually watch his video instead of assuming bull*** and sucking a big company name's d*** like everybody over at arfcom. You don't want to watch his 45 minute video? I don't watch NutnFancy's reviews because I also can't be arsed for how long they are...
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At 10:08 and 10:50 it's stated that the rifle went back with a PRI gas block on both accounts of it being returned, so not completely stock, just saying.

Anyways I could only take 16:00 minutes because the content is just the same sh*t being repeated over and over again to the point of absurdity. Judging by the first 16:00 minutes this 45:00 minute video could most likely be condensed into 10:00 to 15:00 minutes max.; then people would most likely try to watch all of a video for a change much like all his other videos.

Just as you state Crosshair, you don't watch these videos because they are to long. This is what most seem to be complaining of here, not Fanboys complaining about how a Larue wouldn't ever perform badly, but about a video(s) that could be substantially shorter with a lot less talking.

This is not my first attempt at viewing a Nut'n Fancy video in it's entirety, however like all before it I expect it to be my last...

Cheers D
 
cp220 said:
But nutn is even a bigger goof. Drilling out a gasport is the last thing in the world you should do when having problems with a AR platform as there is many things more likely to be causing the problem.
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That's what he did, though. He said in his video that he had nothing to lose, he was either going to drill it bigger and it will work or he was going to scrap the barrel because it just didn't work. He ended up drilling the gas port and everything was fine, which is good because he now has a perfectly good Larue upper that he likes.

thump_rrr said:
If he was testing it in sub zero temps and didn't mention this to Larue they may never figure out what the problem is when they test the rifle in Texas.
Their gas port size may correct per their engineering team.
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As another poster mentioned earlier, from what I can remember from his video he's been testing this rifle for many years in many different situations in the winter and in the summer. When he does a review on a firearm he normally shoots a LOT of ammo through it in different conditions, which is pretty good and way better than a guy who fires 500 rounds at the range and does a review. You eventually get to see some video clips where he shoots his guns in all the different scenarios he and his friends make and in different temperatures but I agree with everyone that I can't watch super long videos like that often. Watching this one was worth it.
 
-[Crosshair]- said:
Did any of you actually watched the video?

That's what I thought.

The gas port on his barrel was too small. He sent the rifle TWICE to Larue and they didn't do #### and sent him back his rifle with nothing fixed. He fixed it himself by drilling the gas port.

Are Larues the least reliable rifles? No, but even with the best manufacturers you can get defects and things that slip out of QC.
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Wait one.

Mark is in Texas -- Nutn is somewhere cold
Bullet propellant in a lot of ammo is temperature sensitive - and in cold weather the gun that may have worked like a swiss watch in Texas at 86F did not function in cold weather.

We at KAC saw it with early SR-15's and low power .223 ammo in colder climates -- I had the same gun come back twice - each time it would run 300rds in Fl - and when it went to North Dakota in the winter, the gun gagged. He was using Wolf or Tula ammo, as well.
We ended up tossing the gun in a environmental chamber with his ammo - and saw it not work for ourselves after a 12hr cold soak.
Answer was we opened up his port 0.002 and the gun then worked for him.

Semi-Auto (and auto) guns are systems -- you need to be careful with your ammo - as changes in port and chamber pressures (like ####ty ammo in the cold, or hot ammo heak soaked to 150F) can cause reliability issues -- much more with piston guns than DI...
 
NoTarget said:
I lost respect for him when he gave the Ruger Scout a bad review. How could anyone say a bad thing about my rifle?

Fanboys unite!
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That's the one that did it for me too. That video was like watching one of those horrible infomercials.

Glad I bought mine, still one of my favorite rifles.
 
Madmardigan said:
That's the one that did it for me too. That video was like watching one of those horrible infomercials.

Glad I bought mine, still one of my favorite rifles.
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My original statement was a little tongue in cheek but watching him work the bolt like a chump and complain about it wasn't impressive. Seriously, how could you not like this rifle...
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On the plus side for him, he does seem to like the Mini-14.
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