Are there rimfire competitions?

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Wondering, if there is a category or class for rimfire rifle target shooting.. for accuracy and distance...
Just amazed at the natural tendency of my 17hmr to land inside of a dime at any distance I've been able to try it on..

Without any super fancy magical work to a rifle... just a really nice special edition 93r17 (Mako Edition) and a scope (some of my best work done on a 6-18x banner series bushnell thats not even worth a hundred bucks... ) and a bipod.

I'm a newer shooter... in the 100 to 200 yard area...

I have other rifles too... but nothing I'm as good with.
 
Do you belong to a club/range?I belong to a couple of ranges that shoot .22 pistol and have a .22 long gun shoot annually.The best way to get info on matches is to google clubs in your area to check their agendas or start one yourself.
 
sillymike said:
While there plenty of competition that uses 22lr firearm (ISSF match and sporting events, NRA bullseye, benchrest) I don't know of anything with the 17HMR... other than some informal 'club'shoot.
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hmm, its probably unfair, cuz .22LR generally sucks as a round, silly little ball of cheap lead mostly.,.. if youre good with it, its probably lots of work..

17HMR is so accurate out of the box you'd have to set up wind machines in different directions just to be interesting ;)
 
ADHDCanuck said:
hmm, its probably unfair, cuz .22LR generally sucks as a round, silly little ball of cheap lead mostly.,.. if youre good with it, its probably lots of work..

17HMR is so accurate out of the box you'd have to set up wind machines in different directions just to be interesting ;)
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Actually, the 22lr can be very accurate if you have a high quality rifle, and you use higher quality ammunition. Most people have no idea as to how accurate a 22lr can be, because they usually own lower end rifles, and use bulk ammunition. Below are a couple of five shot groups, fired at 50 yards with ammunition that cost around $5 per 50. I haven't seen many people shoot better groups with their 17HMR, even though the ammunition costs three times as much.

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Airguns can shoot dime sized groups at 50 yards as well with good guns, glass and pellets.
$14 per 500 pellets.
 
ADHDCanuck said:
hmm, its probably unfair, cuz .22LR generally sucks as a round, silly little ball of cheap lead mostly.,.. if youre good with it, its probably lots of work..

17HMR is so accurate out of the box you'd have to set up wind machines in different directions just to be interesting ;)
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Drivel, you clearly have little to no knowledge of 22lr. competitions and the potential of the cartridge in a good rifle. To do well in any competition requires lots of work. Maybe with a little more experience you will realize the returns in most competitions are commensurate with the level of effort.
 
This is 30 rounds (3x 10-rnd mags), rapid fire mag-dump style at 20 yards with CCI SV .22LR ammo. Not too shabby for a silly little ball of cheap lead. :)

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dryfire said:
Drivel, you clearly have little to no knowledge of 22lr. competitions and the potential of the cartridge in a good rifle. To do well in any competition requires lots of work. Maybe with a little more experience you will realize the returns in most competitions are commensurate with the level of effort.
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I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic boys :ang3
 
stubblejumper said:
Actually, the 22lr can be very accurate if you have a high quality rifle, and you use higher quality ammunition. Most people have no idea as to how accurate a 22lr can be, because they usually own lower end rifles, and use bulk ammunition. Below are a couple of five shot groups, fired at 50 yards with ammunition that cost around $5 per 50. I haven't seen many people shoot better groups with their 17HMR, even though the ammunition costs three times as much.

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Excellent shooting.
 
I shoot in various club competitions and fund shoots in Speed Steel (Rimfire Carbine Production - Marlin 39M), 50BR, 100 BR (both yards and Meters).

You have to do your part and find the best ammo for your rifle. The Marlin will shoot 1.5" groups with a 9X scope at 100 yards with CCI Select.

Go to this site: http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/363329-Online-Matches-Rules

And find the 100 yard Unlimited target and scroll down till you find the target and print on heavier paper so your holes are cut clean.

Some time you have to show the initiate to create a competition and your own fun. Once you start there will be followers.
 
Rod B said:
wtf ????????
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pretty clear i thought?
The 22LR is a slow, poorly formed round... compared to the much faster, more svelte 17HMR which has astoundingly better ballistics at every range from 50 to 250 yards. so fast theyre basically impervious to gravity all the way out to distances where the energy drops to near nothing because the round is so light.

the weight makes them susceptible to wind and grasses/leaves but on a clear calm day a novice shooter with an out of the box 93R17 and a bushnell cheap 18x scope will do as good as a highly advanced shooter with a 22LR and better kit at 100 yards.

the gun/ammo is just so darned spearhead accurate that it compensates massively for lack of experience and skill.. just set up, point reticle on target, and shoot.

it needs to be cheaper :(
 
ADHDCanuck said:
pretty clear i thought?
The 22LR is a slow, poorly formed round... compared to the much faster, more svelte 17HMR which has astoundingly better ballistics at every range from 50 to 250 yards. so fast theyre basically impervious to gravity all the way out to distances where the energy drops to near nothing because the round is so light.

the weight makes them susceptible to wind and grasses/leaves but on a clear calm day a novice shooter with an out of the box 93R17 and a bushnell cheap 18x scope will do as good as a highly advanced shooter with a 22LR and better kit at 100 yards.

the gun/ammo is just so darned spearhead accurate that it compensates massively for lack of experience and skill.. just set up, point reticle on target, and shoot.

it needs to be cheaper :(
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I have shot some pretty impressive groups at 100 yards with my Anschutz target rifles, groups that are better than many less experienced shooters are shooting with their 17HMR rifles.
 
bias and experience.
My group of six, in the woods, with a breeze, 4 of whom had never fired a gun before, using a $75 scope, shooting caps off bottles all afternoon with a savage 93r17 tell a different story.
Same happens at the range every time i go with my 17.

You have to have a supreme rifle in 22LR to touch a mid range 17HMR for out of the box accuracy in anyones hands.

I'd never fired a shot at anything beyond 30 yards in my life, and I wasnt just shooting bottles, i was shooting the caps off... in an hour. (at 100 yards+)

We ended up out of bottles.

I used my CHAPSTICK.. shot the cap off...

got it on video too in 1080p...

22LR isnt intended for that, its just a fun cheap ####ty bullet that in expert hands with top level gear can do some decent stuff.

When joe blow can match it... thats something for 17HMR.

Had an argument last year between two staffers at phoenix range... the one guy thought i'd fired two shots. The other guy was there and saw me fire five. Two holes touching.. no extra torn paper. Thats three additional shots in the same holes. Bipod.

not that you cant be a marksman with anything.
but anyone can be a marksman with 17hmr.

just put the two rounds next to each other and look. one is hillbilly and one is ninja assassin.

its scary how easy it is.
 
i know im a bit of a noob, but i'm a big geek with anything i do....
look at this, even painted gold its still lipstick on a pig.
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I consider just about everyone else out there more experienced and skilled than myself... so it strikes me as terribly odd that a novice shooter with imperfect eyes and no training can replicate results like this with nearly anyone....

Truly, the gun/round is better than the shooter :)

Mind you I can do 1 inch groups with 22LR out of my Ruger SR22 tastefully equipped under the right conditions but thats a nearly $2,000 package by the time the upgrades are added on.

My Savage is $500 and slays it in the hands of a random person with no experience.

Isnt that amazing?
 
22LR isnt intended for that, its just a fun cheap ####ty bullet that in expert hands with top level gear can do some decent stuff.
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Obviously, you haven't seen what a match grade 22lr with proper ammunition can do in the hands of a very talented shooter. I am not even close to being in the same class as some of the target shooters on this forum, and even I can keep up with many of the 17HMR shooters that show up at our local range, and I don't use the high end 22lr match ammunition.

Mind you I can do 1 inch groups with 22LR out of my Ruger SR22 tastefully equipped under the right conditions but thats a nearly $2,000 package by the time the upgrades are added on.
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1 inch at 100 yards isn't even close to what a 22lr match rifle can do with match ammunition. There are shooters on this forum that will cut that in half or better with a 22lr. Most people use cheap 22lr ammunition, in cheap 22lr rifles, so they have no clue what a top end 22lr is capable of.
 
It never fails to irk me when some "wanna be" puts down the 22 LR as being inferior to the latest rimfire fad.

I have and shoot a 17HMR [CZ 452 American] It is quite accurate.

However, when I want real accuracy in a rimfire, I pick up my Suhl, or my 40X, or M37, and go shoot some targets.

Can't be done with $2.50 ammo though, regardless of what some might claim.

I have shot many 5 shot groups at 100 that are under ½" and at 200 that are under 1" with my target rimfires.

Below are some 10-shot groups fired at 50M from a decent rimfire, using ELEY EPS match ammo.

Regards, Dave



Here is a 200M group [The squares are ½"]
 
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