Need Advice on IPSC Production Division Pistol

Out of curiosity, is there a huge difference between the Shadow and a 85 Combat?

Without experiencing the former, I've found the 85's trigger buttery smooth.
 
DJLethalP said:
Hey folks. I'm looking at going for my "black badge" in the spring and starting to compete in the IPSC Production Division. Just wondering what other people are using for pistols? I've narrowed down my choices between a Glock 21 Gen 4, CZ75, Taurus 1911 & Jerico 941. Still trying to decide as they all have pros/cons. I've shot each and would like them all. Lol. But I am open to other suggestions, preferably from people who compete in the division. Thanks.
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Glock 21 = expensive to shoot, and the mags suck (old riveted mags are the ones to get, the 10 rounders stick in the gun)
CZ75 = Lots of CZ75 versions on the production list, some are better than others as far as competition goes. Currently the Shadow is the chosen one.
Taurus 1911= You won`t be in production...But you won`t find many people who don`t love a 1911.
Jericho 941= Looks like a CZ75 knock-off...So why not.

But production was designed to get you shooting with the pistol you have so just get out there and start shooting, new equipment will find it`s way into your possession no matter what you start with.
Except for a few pistols IPSC has a division that you can play in with what you already have. Yes some are better than others but as a new shooter it won`t matter.
Have fun and get A`s, the rest will sort itself out.
 
Forgot to add, if you don`t have any pistols...
Open: STI 2011 (pic a model...) or you might also consider a CZ Checkmate or Tanfoglio.
Standard: STI 2011 (Edge is very popular) or a CZ Tactical Sport or a Tanfoglio.
Classic: a 1911, preferably in 9mm...
Production: CZ75 Shadow. If it must be plastic a Glock 17
Revolver: S&W 686

Just my 2 cents, YMMV
 
I strongly disagree on the 9mm in classic. .40 is the way to go. At any given match you can decide if you want to shoot major or minor. 90% of the time you want to shoot major.
 
ndb86 said:
I strongly disagree on the 9mm in classic. .40 is the way to go. At any given match you can decide if you want to shoot major or minor. 90% of the time you want to shoot major.
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I wouldn't say strongly. While this is a great option the Worlds were just won using minor.
 
1riot1ranger said:
This is totally correct, however TGO told a fellow competitor that he [paraphasing here] would have opted for major if he'd had better information/seen the stages.
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I heard that rumour as well.

Honestly I'd much rather have the option than to be stuck with only shooting minor. This weekend I'll shoot my second match in classic using my .45 Spartan so I'm no expert in classic division. However if I decide to switch full time from production to classic I will be getting a .40.
 
Both Latham and Jerret made the decision at the last minute to shoot minor at the Worlds. Both said after the match they should have shot major. Angus shot major and after the match felt that he should have shot minor. As nick said 40 gives you the option of shooting either.
 
wasrupzuk said:
Forgot to add, if you don`t have any pistols...
Open: STI 2011 (pic a model...) or you might also consider a CZ Checkmate or Tanfoglio.
Standard: STI 2011 (Edge is very popular) or a CZ Tactical Sport or a Tanfoglio.
Classic: a 1911, preferably in 9mm...
Production: CZ75 Shadow. If it must be plastic a Glock 17
Revolver: S&W 686

Just my 2 cents, YMMV
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+1

Except I don't fit the monstrous grip on the 2011, so I'd go Tanfo
 
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ndb86 said:
I strongly disagree on the 9mm in classic. .40 is the way to go. At any given match you can decide if you want to shoot major or minor. 90% of the time you want to shoot major.
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If you are shooting classic the 9 will give you ten. That will buy you options on your coarse of fire that 8 cannot give (100% of the time).
Plus choosing a caliber based on peripheral hits is illogical; it takes A's to win and major/minor A's score the same.
What's that old line, "you can't miss fast enough to win"...
 
Two questions - in the context of Production division, is the Glock 17 clearly superior to a Glock 22?
and:
When I had two Glock 22s, I was well pleased except that I had trouble dropping 10 round magazines. In another jurisdiction with big mags, no such problem but now I'm likely to stay home. I previously shot Paras so maybe I was spoiled or maybe just inept.
 
Ramsgate said:
Two questions - in the context of Production division, is the Glock 17 clearly superior to a Glock 22?
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When I had two Glock 22s, I was well pleased except that I had trouble dropping 10 round magazines. In another jurisdiction with big mags, no such problem but now I'm likely to stay home. I previously shot Paras so maybe I was spoiled or maybe just inept.
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To me, Glock 17 is a better choice for production vs. Glock 22. The G17 shoots 9mm and I can manage the recoil better and can get the sight back down quicker for follow up shots. And the 9mm is also cheaper for me to feed (and reload), i.e. more ammo, more practice. If you can shoot the G17 and the G22 the same, and have no issues with feeding either of them, I don't think one is superior than the other.

I have a Glock 17 Gen 4. 50% of my mags are the 10-rounders and the rest are 10/17 mags (all Glock no KCI though). Both types drop free (even when empty) without modifications. Was there any kind of deformation with your grip/magwell or the mags? Or death grips perhaps? I never had a G22, perhaps others can chime in on this issue.
 
wasrupzuk said:
If you are shooting classic the 9 will give you ten. That will buy you options on your coarse of fire that 8 cannot give (100% of the time).
Plus choosing a caliber based on peripheral hits is illogical; it takes A's to win and major/minor A's score the same.
What's that old line, "you can't miss fast enough to win"...
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The .40 can also give you 10. My point was that with 9mm you ARE minor, with a .40 you have the option to shoot major or minor.

If you have 2 shooters that are the same skill level the guy that scores alpha charlie on every target will be a lot faster than the guy with 2 alpha's on all the targets. That generally means a higher hit factor for the AC guy over the AA guy. However if you're shooting minor, that may no longer be the case in which case you would need to shoot slower and get all A's or shoot major to get more points. Again, it's all about options. I like options.

I'm not saying a person can't or shouldn't use 9mm in classic, I just would recommend .40 as it's more versatile within the division.
 
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