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This info is outdated as of 2013. Check the sticky on the reloading forum. For'standard' dwellings (not multi-unit dwellings) the limit is 25 kg (> 50 pounds).
Are you a powder HOARDER? Am I? Is your buddy?
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This info is outdated as of 2013. Check the sticky on the reloading forum. For'standard' dwellings (not multi-unit dwellings) the limit is 25 kg (> 50 pounds).
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In the long term, there is no such thing as hoarding.
That is, unless you buy powder that you never use or simply throw away.
Think about it rationally. For the sake of argument, let's say each reloader goes through 100 lb of powder per year. Also for the sake of argument, let's say the entire industry produces 200 lb of powder per year.
Reloader #1 goes to the local gun shop one day and sees 200 lbs of powder on the shelf. Thinking about the last time he was left staring forlornly at empty shelves, he buys all 200 lbs.
Reloader #2 comes in the following day and sees that all the shelves are empty! That jerk reloader #1 is a hoarder!
Except that reloader #1, by buying twice what he needed, has effectively removed himself from the powder market for the next two years. Unless he buys powder that he subsequently throws out, the overall supply of powder is not affected by him and people like him in the long term.
All 'hoarding' can do is cause local outages in the short term.
That is, unless you buy powder that you never use or simply throw away.
Think about it rationally. For the sake of argument, let's say each reloader goes through 100 lb of powder per year. Also for the sake of argument, let's say the entire industry produces 200 lb of powder per year.
Reloader #1 goes to the local gun shop one day and sees 200 lbs of powder on the shelf. Thinking about the last time he was left staring forlornly at empty shelves, he buys all 200 lbs.
Reloader #2 comes in the following day and sees that all the shelves are empty! That jerk reloader #1 is a hoarder!
Except that reloader #1, by buying twice what he needed, has effectively removed himself from the powder market for the next two years. Unless he buys powder that he subsequently throws out, the overall supply of powder is not affected by him and people like him in the long term.
All 'hoarding' can do is cause local outages in the short term.
Yup, share and share alike. That way nobody has any. Shooters that can afford to and know what they are doing stock up on powder lots. They do this because that lot will give them consistently uniform results. I know lots of fellows that purchase 2 pounds of powder or less/2x100 packs of primers and 200 bullets. Mostly the reason is that is what they can afford. IMHO, it is often just a case of throwing good money after bad. You might get lucky with certain lots that will be very close to the last load you worked up for the last lot of components. Then again, you may not and end up using a substantial amount of your precious components finding the sweet set up again.
Keeping at least a couple of years of components on hand is only good common sense. Especially over the last 7 years of Obama's regime, due to end along with his cohorts. There have been a lot of conflicts throughout the world over the last ten years and that requires a lot of powder to maintain. Add to that the fear of cartridge shortages and yes a bit of hoarding happens. I have seen this type of thing happen 4 times in the last 50 years. Every time there were whiners crying that those that thought ahead should share.
Please show me the law that states this. It's pretty obvious you are not a lawyer so please don't quote misinformation and tell people they are incriminating themselves. Read the very last line of the link you posted. I'll make it easy for you.
Hopefully you have plenty of extra STI parts to bring with you this summer so I can get my emergency/repair kit put together for my plinker I bought from you.
If I got down to 100 pounds left, I would get concerned. I am not a hoarder, but I do learn by my experience. Different components have gone through periods of scarcity and periods of plenty. When there is lots available, I buy lots. By lots, I mean 50,000 primers and at least 50 pounds of each of my favourite powders.
If I invested the same money in gold, would you call me a "hoarder"? The difference between gold and components (during periods of plenty) is that gold sometimes goes down in value. But the power I bought at $8.00 a pound and the primers I bought at $20 a thousand never have and never will go down in value.
If you value your sport and peace of mind, stock up and maintain a float when components are available.
If I invested the same money in gold, would you call me a "hoarder"? The difference between gold and components (during periods of plenty) is that gold sometimes goes down in value. But the power I bought at $8.00 a pound and the primers I bought at $20 a thousand never have and never will go down in value.
If you value your sport and peace of mind, stock up and maintain a float when components are available.
Aprilia Man
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OK Guys .... which one is correct?
CSSA says 10kg per house (looks outdated)
http://www.cdnshootingsports.org/legal_info_for_reloaders.html
NFA says 75kg per house
https://nfa.ca/nrcan-handloading-explosives-act
CGN sticky says 25kg per house
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...nd-Powder-Storage-Explosives-Regulations-2013
Well if we want to get technical you guys are all Hoarders and so am I. Since being a hoarder is the act of accumulating something in a time of scarcity. So we're all hoarders.
Honestly though, as far as the powder shortages go we did this to ourselves, same thing with the ammo shortage. Either the thought of a possible shortage or actual shortage caused everyone to get worried. So most people went out and bought more than they normally would. Demand went up and supply went down. Either production has to rise enough to meet demand, or the demand has to go back down to normal levels. I imagine most powder manufactures are making as much as they can so simply demand/panick buying has to go down before we see a change.
Honestly though, as far as the powder shortages go we did this to ourselves, same thing with the ammo shortage. Either the thought of a possible shortage or actual shortage caused everyone to get worried. So most people went out and bought more than they normally would. Demand went up and supply went down. Either production has to rise enough to meet demand, or the demand has to go back down to normal levels. I imagine most powder manufactures are making as much as they can so simply demand/panick buying has to go down before we see a change.
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OK Guys .... which one is correct?
CSSA says 10kg per house (looks outdated)
http://www.cdnshootingsports.org/legal_info_for_reloaders.html
NFA says 75kg per house
https://nfa.ca/nrcan-handloading-explosives-act
CGN sticky says 25kg per house
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...nd-Powder-Storage-Explosives-Regulations-2013
I'm gonna go with what the law says:
Both the NFA and CdnShootingSports links are out of date and should be taken down. The law was revised in 2013.
Yes, that's reduced by the amount you currently have in loaded ammo.
Yup......
After being through no less than 4 other lean periods, a guy learns to be proactive.
Myself as well as many other "veterans of a few campaigns" were warning fellow reloaders to wake up to the current realities as far back as 4 years ago......
It sucks if you are new to reloading.
I would have to look. But I think I have around 18-20lbs.
I keep a pound of IMR4350 stashed. As that's what my hunting rifles use for their hunting loads.
Just incase I get in a pinch.
I would like to get a few smaller calibes to help stretch the powder out.
I keep a pound of IMR4350 stashed. As that's what my hunting rifles use for their hunting loads.
Just incase I get in a pinch.
I would like to get a few smaller calibes to help stretch the powder out.
infideleggwelder
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
have half pound of IMR 4895. no you can`t have it.
I think i am like most other reloaders in that I am keeping far more on hand than we used too. I always bought a lb or 2 as i used it and the local shop always had it on hand. Over the past couple of years it was frustrating not being able to get what was needed so now when the shipment come in I am far more likely to buy several lbs at a time. A lb of Unique last a long time loading .38's but when you cant find it when you need it then several lbs show up your gonna buy it. my buddy in the US has been doing this for years. We created the shortage.
