STI Edge or Kimber Stainless Gold Match II 9mm?

hatman1793 said:
What about the STI RangeMaster?
Why shoot 40 when the recoil impulse is almost like 45?
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Not legal for Classic Division as it has a full-length dust cover. See above for the reasons to shoot .40 in IPSC competition

Sambaru said:
Without commenting on Kimber quality, just a statistical note that should be considered when thinking of all the reported failures/issues...

Kimber sells something like 7 times the number of 1911s of all other manufacturers COMBINED.
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I'm not going to get on the Kimber dogpile... However, the OP asked a question about IPSC shooting/competition, not plinking. The bulk of firearms owners don't shoot enough to understand the limitations of their gear. Volume of sales are not relevant. The type of firearms used by *competition* shooters is. I know only 1 guy who shoots a Kimber in competition - and only the frame, slide, and barrel are what remains of the "Kimber" (and I'm not 100% certain the barrel hasn't been replaced by aftermarket...).

I'm not an STI fanboy - but they have consistently generated decent quality products focused on the competition shooter. There are better guns out there, but given the number of STIs I see at matches (and the number of rounds that get pumped through STI guns in practice), I'd say they are a pretty good value for the dollar.
 
1riot1ranger said:
Not legal for Classic Division as it has a full-length dust cover. See above for the reasons to shoot .40 in IPSC competition



I'm not going to get on the Kimber dogpile... However, the OP asked a question about IPSC shooting/competition, not plinking. The bulk of firearms owners don't shoot enough to understand the limitations of their gear. Volume of sales are not relevant. The type of firearms used by *competition* shooters is. I know only 1 guy who shoots a Kimber in competition - and only the frame, slide, and barrel are what remains of the "Kimber" (and I'm not 100% certain the barrel hasn't been replaced by aftermarket...).

I'm not an STI fanboy - but they have consistently generated decent quality products focused on the competition shooter. There are better guns out there, but given the number of STIs I see at matches (and the number of rounds that get pumped through STI guns in practice), I'd say they are a pretty good value for the dollar.
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I would recommend STI over Kimber as well. Was merely adding some perspective as people think saying "I see 10x more failures in Kimbers" is meaningful when statistically it isn't. I used to work at a rental range and seeing STI Trojans outlast CZs, SIGs, and Berettas and almost keep up with Glocks really won me over. Very solid 1911s for sure!

Just to add my original point was that THAT many more Kimbers in existence would equal a proportionate increase in perceived issues, not that they are better because they sell more. I was not commenting on volume of sales either.
 
Guys, Thank you for all the comments. I didn't mean to start a conflagration. The Kimber was my choice. Maybe I didn't do enough research; I thought I had and perhaps I wasn't circumspect enough. I will shoot it and enjoy it and see how it settles out. I like the 1911's they seem to fit my hand well. If someone is kind enough to eventually let me fire their steel .40 S&W then well, maybe we will end up with a Trojan. I did shoot a Glock 22 the other day and I didn't like it but as someone told me, comparing a Glock 22 to a steel .40 is like comparing a VW bug to a BMW.
I go through at least 600 rounds a week. I'm an old guy so I have a bit more time on my hands. My eyes are so bad that it might mean eventually moving to Open??? so I can put optics on it. My solution to the eye glass prescription thing is that I shoot with the left lens removed from my prescription glasses so I can see the front sight with my dominant eye, and manage to see the target with my right eye.

Progressive lens just muddle the sight picture even more.

Not sure what the magic fix is prescription eye glass wise but maybe it is a special prescription that will allow me focus front sight with left eye and target with right.
Once again thanks for all your comments.
Hopefully see you all in Brooks May 2nd or 3rd.
Kindly
 
For me, branding is just a matter of preference. Both STI and KIMBER makes good pistols. Both have decent entry level to high-ends. Some users will disagree, most will boast of how good and accurate the ones they are using. This is like comparing a Honda Civic against a Toyota Corolla. Brand loyalty is a factor. Win-win for both. If you are happy with your purchase, good for you. If you are not satisfied, sell it. Move on. Find the right one for you and enjoy!

Safe Shooting!
 
shikano53 said:
Yeah man I hear ya! I finally decided (Don't flame me) to go with the Kimber in 9mm after nearly going blind reading about MIM.
There seems to be a lot of opinions on both sides.
The Kimber fit my hand perfectly so that's what I went with.
I guess time will tell.
Thanks for all the feedback folks!
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If it fits you, you like it and it will get you out shooting IPSC then congrats, Thanks and I hope you enjoy the experience.

1riot1ranger said:
It's only an advantage if you shoot all Alphas. Shooting minor (9mm) means more rounds, but it also means that you have to shoot half as many Cs and Ds as the guy shooting major. Yes, you occasionally (like 1 time per match) can get by with 1 less reload, but that doesn't make up for higher scoring major power factor.

I started in Classic using a 9mm and quickly switched to .40. I haven't looked back. The majority of guys shooting Classic/Single Stack agree.

.40 also gives you the option of shooting minor (and using 10 round magazines) - should you so desire.
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Sorry but if you propose winning by shooting more points on peripheral hits I think we would have to agree to disagree...
A's all score the same. Winners shoot A's quicker than the other guy shooting A's.
What's the line?
You can't miss fast enough to win...
As for down loading the 40; why pay more for ammo than the 9 if your just going to try to emulate the 9's performance?
Also, I don't see the advantage of the 9 as just 1 less reload but the expanded options of where you can reload which gives better options at avoiding the static reload (a time killer).
But I never did agree with how IPSC implanted classic division; the 8/10 issue is a bit of a burr in my saddle. It just should have been 8 for all...
 
shikano53 said:
Not sure what the magic fix is prescription eye glass wise but maybe it is a special prescription that will allow me focus front sight with left eye and target with right.
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That's what I do. My shooting glasses are my most important piece of competitive shooting gear. The nice thing is that there's nothing other than the front sight for my dominant eye to focus on, so I'm less tempted to have my focus drawn to the target. Just make sure you understand "dominant eye". My educated guess is that about 1 out of 3 are cross dominant (eg. right handed and left eye dominant)

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Congrats on your Kimber.
Ive got one and i love it.
have had it for a couple years now and its still my favorite 1911 by far.
not one failure or problem with it.

unfortunately on CGN your going to have to hide your love of the Kimber as the STI fan-boy ratio is unusually high here.
but rest assured im sure you will have fun shooting and enjoy your Kimber as everyone i know who has one does.

welcome to the club my friend.
 
i made this and have to use it whenever the STI/Kimber fight starts, sorry.

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