Does the 338/358 offer any practical advantage over 308?

I love my BLR 81 358 Win, shoots 225gr Partitions @ 2470 fps out of the 20" barrel. Slams game down and keeps going out the other side :) Another thing I noticed was the 308 seemed to have far more blood shot compared with the 358 with heavier bullets. You could almost eat up to the hole with the 358.
Had both the 308 and 358 and would say the 358 just seems to pick deer up and throw them to the ground. I also can shoot 300 yds no problem with the 225s. Haven't tried the 225 Sierras yet as I love Partitions. If you are in Griz country like I am, the 358 gives you a lil more piece of mind when out and about.
I would go with the 358. Oh wait, I did :).
 
Here is a paragraph from an article written by "Chuck Hawks" about .35 caliber cartridges,...

"Compare the .308 Winchester and the .358 Winchester, which are based on the same case, and the .358 wins hands down. On a 600 pound animal like a big bull elk the optimum game range of the .308 (180 grain bullet at a MV of 2610 fps) is a useful 175 yards. However, the optimum game range of the .358 (250 grain bullet at a MV of 2300 fps) is 240 yards."
 
c-fbmi said:
Well kinda there BUM, but you actually have projected the theory somewhat.....The thinking was to ban hunting on Sundays to get you heathen bastards to go to church instead of deer hunting..........
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Then the need to widen the church doors also...
 
hoytcanon said:
I am having to seat the 250 SP-RP's back into the case to work in the magazine... are you having that problem too? The 200's are fine at max OAL.
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I finally found some info t'canun........
Speer 35 cal. 250gr bullets, #2453 info on the yeller box.
Over all length I use is 2.758"
Couldn't find any loaded rounds to confirm this felted info on
the inside lid of my Speer box.
I guess I settled on the 180's and found a bunch of 200's as well.
 
I'm on board with the 35's slamming deer. I've a 9.3 x 57 and 'slamming' is an apt term IMO. You have to contend with a bit of a shorter effective range, but it's paid back in extra power inside that shorter range.
Loading it steeper makes it light up more recoil wise than my 375, but the 9.3 is a lighter, handy rifle...duh, recoils more.
 
Years ago, on a hunting trip to the East Kootneys in SE B.C., I recall one of the group had a very compact rifle. As I remember, it was a Remington model 600 Mohawk, had a vent rib of some sort and was chambered in 350 Remington Magnum. Also, I 'believe' it had a laminate or laminate looking stock. He still lives in the area, I'll have to see if he still has it.
 
Johnn Peterson said:
Years ago, on a hunting trip to the East Kootneys in SE B.C., I recall one of the group had a very compact rifle. As I remember, it was a Remington model 600 Mohawk, had a vent rib of some sort and was chambered in 350 Remington Magnum. Also, I 'believe' it had a laminate or laminate looking stock. He still lives in the area, I'll have to see if he still has it.
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I had a Mohawk .350 RM with laminate stock... traded it for a Ruger MKII .350 RM, only to sell that, regret selling it and buying another one... eventually traded the third RM for a Hawkeye .358 Win... still have that one, as well as the Frontier .358 above and a BLR .358... I like the .358 Win a lot...
 
I wasn't "unhappy" with the 308 I had and it's performnce on deer, bear & moose, but have since become a lot happier with the 35 Whelen !

I would certainly have been satisfied with a Win. 88 or Savage 99 in 358, however, very few are to be found. Certainly with handloading
the 358 can really shine.

If " 300 yard clear cut moose" were on my regular menu, a good bolt action in 338 WM would be my first choice.
As it stands, I have taken nothing over 90 yards in Muskoka / Parry Sound, so the 7600 pump in 35 Whelen works just fine.
 
I've got a .338fed but haven't shot any animals with it yet.

As far as the wife questioning me on guns coming and going on a regular basis.... I married a good level headed Serbian girl, nuff said and zero problems over here ;)
 
hoytcanon said:
I had a Mohawk .350 RM with laminate stock... traded it for a Ruger MKII .350 RM, only to sell that, regret selling it and buying another one... eventually traded the third RM for a Hawkeye .358 Win... still have that one, as well as the Frontier .358 above and a BLR .358... I like the .358 Win a lot...
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A small;) deviation from topic:p, the only 35s I have are a pair of rifles in 358 Norma Magnum
A model 1651 Husqvarna





and, to complete my three gun Schultz & Larsen collection, :d a model 68DL .

 
I've shot a bunch of elk and some moose with .308s and .35 Whelens. And my brother has also with a .358. The two main advantages that the big 225-250 grain .35 bullets give me over 165-180 grain 30's are making exit holes and smashing humerus bones. I have seen .308 bullets stopped dead in three different elk when they hit the ball of the humerus/head of the scapula joint. When placed at that exact spot, good .35 caliber bullets just smash through and keep going through the lungs. I really like exit holes when hunting elk in early season thick bush with no tracking snow. Even well hit elk sometimes make a long death dash, and an exit hole boosts my confidence while tracking until its found. I still like and use the .308 and find it fully " adequate" for elk and moose and bears - but I like the .358 and .35 W a little bit more. I actually prefer the .308 for deer in every instance.
 
BigUglyMan said:
I just about had a seizure from those stocks.
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Yup and awn a bad day jsut pense if'n wun stuck hizz tripper pinkie in the wrong hole
and question.............ware did me trigger go?
Ever pewt yer digg'it in the wrong spawt?

Ohh, never mind...........this ain't gonna fare well.
 
One nice feature of the 358 Win is that you can re-load it with 38 lead pistol bullets or jacketed pistol bullets. Make great, cheap plinkers. Nothing like lots and lots of shooting with a rifle to get good with it.
 
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