don't think it's an issue with the spring tension but I will give it a shot.
SR22 (ruger rifle) mag reviews
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don't think it's an issue with the spring tension but I will give it a shot.
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- Edmonton Alberta, Canada
the drums are junk. i have two. one is nearly non functional after only 300 or so rounds out of it.. the other hates every ammo ive ever put in it so far and i have a thousand rounds of 5 different brands and types.
they fit nice and snug, but they dont feed worth a darn.. and the feeding neck gets screwed up every so often, spring tension changes or something not sure... but definitely not reliable no matter how carefully you load them.
like my OP says, i got one from phoenix and one from cabelas... they even have different followers.. just not consistent.
they fit nice and snug, but they dont feed worth a darn.. and the feeding neck gets screwed up every so often, spring tension changes or something not sure... but definitely not reliable no matter how carefully you load them.
like my OP says, i got one from phoenix and one from cabelas... they even have different followers.. just not consistent.
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- Edmonton Alberta, Canada
those 10 rounders are just SO GOOD.. i can expel all ten rounds in under four seconds with my setup no matter what shape ammo or quality i load into the thing.
if i had available capital i would send a box of 10 and bx25 mags to china and tell them to engineer me a 100+ round drum mag with the same reliability and dont come back til its done, and here's $100,000 to start... then sell them at flea markets off label for like $300 each, people would scream for them if they were just as reliable as the 10's....
its SO FRUSTRATING.
if i had available capital i would send a box of 10 and bx25 mags to china and tell them to engineer me a 100+ round drum mag with the same reliability and dont come back til its done, and here's $100,000 to start... then sell them at flea markets off label for like $300 each, people would scream for them if they were just as reliable as the 10's....
its SO FRUSTRATING.
I tried BC Hot Lips, Steel Lips, the HC3R mags, (two of each to make sure I didn't just get a bad one), and all of them were jam-o-matics, even after going through all the "break in" voodoo that gets suggested here and there.
The factory 10 rounders worked great, and the pair of GSG 110 round drums worked flawlessly as well.
In the end, I solved my general 10/22 problems by getting a Marlin Papoose and a Marlin 795. The ruger never comes out of the safe anymore. Problem solved. Piece of crap.
The factory 10 rounders worked great, and the pair of GSG 110 round drums worked flawlessly as well.
In the end, I solved my general 10/22 problems by getting a Marlin Papoose and a Marlin 795. The ruger never comes out of the safe anymore. Problem solved. Piece of crap.
TI25s and BX10s are all I use and they run awesome. Even running garbage bulk ammo I have very few issues. It is worth upgrading your extractor at the very least.. I noticed a huge improvement after I installed a volquartsen exact edge in my kids 100% bone stock unmodified compact. Ate everything and is a funny little rifle to shoot.
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- Edmonton Alberta, Canada
i put in a POWER CUSTOM titanium and chrome match bolt (pinned firing pin)... i think it comes with the upgraded extractor and all that jazz...
The trouble isnt with the bolt, although it did improve cycling rate and reliability a little.. its with the mags.
On the ruger mags, you can see that a much higher percentage of the primer side of the case is visible to the bolt to catch....
On EVERY aftermarket mag, the first couple rounds load at funny angles (nose up) and then level off with more tension, but still leave much less rear facing surface area visible for the bolt to catch.
That causes two problems.. the first being the bolt misses the rear of the round entirely causing a non feed and dry fire... the second being hitting the case/head of the round and causing a jam....
all that R&D money wasted... all they had to do was adjust their follower and spring tension.... TI,H3CS,GSG,Champion... all garbage.
Some may function slightly better than others, or one may be better than another (one gsg mag works, the other is utter shyte... waste of money). but all they ever had to do to fix the whole thing and conquer the market is make those adjustments.
Needless to say if stretching a spring (or even replacing it with a custom one) and doing a little filing on the rear face of the mag will solve the issue i'm gonna post a how to tutorial and the whole world of .22 will worship at my feet.
The trouble isnt with the bolt, although it did improve cycling rate and reliability a little.. its with the mags.
On the ruger mags, you can see that a much higher percentage of the primer side of the case is visible to the bolt to catch....
On EVERY aftermarket mag, the first couple rounds load at funny angles (nose up) and then level off with more tension, but still leave much less rear facing surface area visible for the bolt to catch.
That causes two problems.. the first being the bolt misses the rear of the round entirely causing a non feed and dry fire... the second being hitting the case/head of the round and causing a jam....
all that R&D money wasted... all they had to do was adjust their follower and spring tension.... TI,H3CS,GSG,Champion... all garbage.
Some may function slightly better than others, or one may be better than another (one gsg mag works, the other is utter shyte... waste of money). but all they ever had to do to fix the whole thing and conquer the market is make those adjustments.
Needless to say if stretching a spring (or even replacing it with a custom one) and doing a little filing on the rear face of the mag will solve the issue i'm gonna post a how to tutorial and the whole world of .22 will worship at my feet.
my HC3r mag is decent once i learned what to do. i have had no issue afterwards. when i load the stripper clip after unlocking the spring i pull it back about 2cm and tip the mag so the rounds fall to the base and then tip it again so they fall forward. quickly looking at the first round i see if the nose is out. i then completely release the spring and allow it to slap back. a quick press on the nose of the first round will let me know that they are all seated. if the nose doesnt move with a good amount of pressure i know its good. i havent had any failures to feed after the first 3 rounds .
Brundlefly
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Ruger must have patented the specific dimensions of the bx mags and other manufacturers can only come close but never duplicate the exact feeding angle, spring tension etc. Thats why they don't all run the same.. but there is nothing wrong with the gun itself.
- Location
- Edmonton Alberta, Canada
the gun itself is practically magic. and the customization options for performance increase are amazing...
The only issue i have with the gun itself is gumming up after 500 rounds thru it or whatever but, ive stopped using oil.. froglube fixes theproblem nicely enough and the firearm smells minty fresh no matter how hard youre working it.
I've ordered a product called EEZOX which is a dry film lubricant and anticorrosive treatment for firearms... in blowback mechanisms like the SR22 and AR15s it should allow them to run a lot more without becoming gunked up with carbon from the dirty ammo in the mechanism and around the breech... no liquid to stick to, but still excellent lubrication.
Ill let everyone know how it works, you can only order it via phone from america... but it lasts forever.
I think this mag issue might jsut require some personal modifications to the mags to see what works best... the ###iest looking mag by far is the battledyne... i'll start with that one.
The only issue i have with the gun itself is gumming up after 500 rounds thru it or whatever but, ive stopped using oil.. froglube fixes theproblem nicely enough and the firearm smells minty fresh no matter how hard youre working it.
I've ordered a product called EEZOX which is a dry film lubricant and anticorrosive treatment for firearms... in blowback mechanisms like the SR22 and AR15s it should allow them to run a lot more without becoming gunked up with carbon from the dirty ammo in the mechanism and around the breech... no liquid to stick to, but still excellent lubrication.
Ill let everyone know how it works, you can only order it via phone from america... but it lasts forever.
I think this mag issue might jsut require some personal modifications to the mags to see what works best... the ###iest looking mag by far is the battledyne... i'll start with that one.
Unless it came NIB with overcast splash in the receiver that needed to be dremmeled out for it to even ccycle, the barrel channel in the stock was cut by the world's dullest router and would draw blood and leave 1/2 splinters if you ran your finger down it, a barrel that IDK WTF is wrong with it, and won't shoot a good group no matter what ammo I try.
And before you go all "blame the hooter, not the gun" - I have several .22s that shoot well and actually hit what you point at. The 10/22 is not among them. It is junk, each and every part, and I got sick of trying to make it less junk, so it sits at the back of the cabinet and I use .22s that are reliable and accurate.
They definitely don't build them like they use to. I have a 70s vintage and a new off the shelf 2014 one and you can see how cheap the new ones are manufactured. The newer one I got shoots good (maybe got lucky). I am only assuming yours is a "newer" one. Wonder if ruger would do anything for you warranty wise if you tried.
I got mine 2 years ago during the height of the gun panic, and it was very definitely when they were just cranking them out to fill the demand.
And it's really too bad. A lot of my ire stems from the fact that a big part of why I got one was based on fond memories of using my grampa's back in the late 70's early 80's when I was a kid. It was a fun, well made little gopher getter. And between my cousins and myself, you really knew who was in favour by who was allowed to borrow it (and that was sometimes none of us, because, well, we tended to mutually get each other into trouble). It was a real treat to shoot that compared to some of the other beater plinkers we had access to.
Brundlefly
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You must have got one built on a Friday afternoon... it's too bad the 10/22's reputation has been hurt by some of these that left the factory. I was referring to the SR22, and although the trigger is a bit heavy it definitely doesn't look or shoot like "junk". The design of the magazine well on them does seem to have a looser tolerance and is more picky about mags and ammo but these issues can be sorted out.
