i got tired of waitng for the rail,,and lucked out and got some nice Warne steel bases from Hitzy who local to me,,these steel bases are great,,my M85 doesn't like laquered cases,,hard to close the bolt,,and hard to extract,,the copper colored stuff is much more accurate than the green colored stuff,,i have to find out where it's from since a few rounds where given to me,,,i got 1" groups at 50yrads with the iron sights and my old eyes,,the green stuff was over 3" and sometimes more,,,i'll try to build up some reloads just to see what it can do,,but i really bought this thing because it was cheap and to shoot crappy surplus for fun,,the action is rough,,doesn't cycle very well,,wood finish sucks,,,the blue is nice on mine,,but to have fun cheaply with a centerfire,,they are hard to beat,,