.243 30 grain?

[glockgrouptherapy]

It be pointless. 22-250 and .243 both meet each other at 50-55gr pills. But since you can spit lighter bullets in the 22-250 there wouldn't be any point having lighter bullets in .243 unless all you have is a .243 gun. I think your sectional density would be so low like some guys have said your bullets just gonna self destruct.

 

[rookie wildcat]

10 seconds on Google - http://www.sabotreloadingpro.com/products

Yeah, I know. I already had it. And I don't think it was 10seconds. Waiting for a return email to see if they can ship to Canada.

 

[Andy]

Yeah, I know. I already had it. And I don't think it was 10seconds. Waiting for a return email to see if they can ship to Canada.

The website states this: "International Shipping Now Available! Additional shipping charges will be added to international orders." so I'd expect they will.

You'll find it fun, what with the high velocities and all and they provide load data, but the accuracy will disappoint you I think.

It's time for a "Sabot Thread".

Back to the 243, I imagine any sabot to shoot 17 cal bullets from a 243 would be something that's not commercially available, therefore very expensive to have custom made.

 

[Boomer]

What if you drilled a hole in the back of the bullet?

Its a bad idea to attempt to modify bullets. By drilling a cavity in the base of the bullet, you'll destroy it's balance; the dimensional center and the center of gravity will no longer be in coincidence, ruining accuracy, and you'll probably observe significant lead fouling. Additionally, you will have changed the copper cup which contains the lead into a copper sleeve, and at high velocity, the bullet would probably explode in the air.

 

[Boomer]

I can easily get a 55 gr bullet to 4100 fps in my 26" barreled 243.

However, you'd be best off using a sabot if you wanted to shoot a bullet weighing 30 grains or so out of a 6mm bore, but it would need to be 17 cal, not 22 cal, in order for the sabot to have even material to properly support the smaller bullet. I don't know if 6mm/17 cal sabots are manufactured, but 30 cal/22 cal still are (as pictured):

I've shot 50 gr 22 cal sabotted bullets out of a 30-06, but it was at least 10 years ago. I put one shot through my chrony and it showed in excess of 4200 fps, but something dislodged one of the chrony's arms and that was the only shot I put through it. The bullets did not disintegrate - they all hit the target intact in a 4-6" group.

That was my .30/06 sabot experience as well. It took me one box to decide that a .22 caliber bullet requires a .22 caliber bore, and that a .30 caliber bore requires a .30 caliber bullet; anything that I may have wanted to shoot with a high velocity .22, I'd have only hit by accident with one of those.

 

[jrcarbine]

70 or 75 grains is the lightest bullets I will use in a 243. I drive these at 3450 to 3500 and they have a good enough BC that they maintain velocity quite well and won't be bashed around too much by some wind.
In short, an excellent load for coyotes, or just having fun with.

Thank you for pointing that out. What would be better for coyotes at 300 yards (might be saving the pelts) the hornady 58 grain or a 70 grain? My trajectory is probably going to be flatter with the 58, but not by much. But would wind affect the 58 grain by much?

 

[cdn1canhunt]

Thank you for pointing that out. What would be better for coyotes at 300 yards (might be saving the pelts) the hornady 58 grain or a 70 grain? My trajectory is probably going to be flatter with the 58, but not by much. But would wind affect the 58 grain by much?

We would need more info on the rifle twist of your gun to suggest a bullet weight. Typically 1-8 , 1-9 twist offer best accuracy from 65gr-85gr pills in the .243. As for mr. coyote, they die like being hit with Thors hammer with about any bullet from the .243. Don't be concerned with how fast the bullet gets to them....you'd do better to just practice with the most accurate weight bullet and be sure you get it to them!!! and if it pelt damage your worried about....DON'T you shoulda bought a .204!

 

[hoytcanon]

I think hornady's 53gr bullet is the lightest currently available?

What 6mm bullet from Hornady is 53 grains? I have 3K of the 58 VM's, and as far as I know they are the lightest offered... and they ARE accurate from a 1:9 and they do a great job on coyotes.

 

[rookie wildcat]

The website states this: "International Shipping Now Available! Additional shipping charges will be added to international orders." so I'd expect they will.

You'll find it fun, what with the high velocities and all and they provide load data, but the accuracy will disappoint you I think.

It's time for a "Sabot Thread".

Back to the 243, I imagine any sabot to shoot 17 cal bullets from a 243 would be something that's not commercially available, therefore very expensive to have custom made.

That was my .30/06 sabot experience as well. It took me one box to decide that a .22 caliber bullet requires a .22 caliber bore, and that a .30 caliber bore requires a .30 caliber bullet; anything that I may have wanted to shoot with a high velocity .22, I'd have only hit by accident with one of those.

Too late. There's two hundred trundling their way here. Guess we will see. I have fired a box of Remington factory Accelerators years ago when you could buy them in Canada. I don't recall dismal accuracy, but then, it was from a milsurp rifle. I still got one left as a souvenir in my drawer.

 

[rookie wildcat]

What 6mm bullet from Hornady is 53 grains? I have 3K of the 58 VM's, and as far as I know they are the lightest offered... and they ARE accurate from a 1:9 and they do a great job on coyotes.

Yes, yes they do.

 

[jrcarbine]

We would need more info on the rifle twist of your gun to suggest a bullet weight. Typically 1-8 , 1-9 twist offer best accuracy from 65gr-85gr pills in the .243. As for mr. coyote, they die like being hit with Thors hammer with about any bullet from the .243. Don't be concerned with how fast the bullet gets to them....you'd do better to just practice with the most accurate weight bullet and be sure you get it to them!!! and if it pelt damage your worried about....DON'T you shoulda bought a .204!

My gun is a savage 11 youth (22", apparently cause the barrel is shorter it is a youth rifle lol). I'm not sure what the twist rate for that is. Last year I hit one at 300 yards with a 100 grain and it was done lol.

 

[cdn1canhunt]

I shoot a savage model 11 also. I believe it is 1-9 twist. I have shot from .55 up to .85gr all weights have shot very well. I find best accuracy with .75gr v-max using 41 gr of IMR 4350. 65gr v-mav have done well also. I have hunted coyotes for about 10 years where kill numbers have been as high as 76/ season for a group of 8-10 hunters running dogs. The .243 IMO the best caliber to kill them DRT with. However it is not fur friendly. Skip saving the pelts... They're not worth much these days anyways.

 

[cdn1canhunt]

What 6mm bullet from Hornady is 53 grains? I have 3K of the 58 VM's, and as far as I know they are the lightest offered... and they ARE accurate from a 1:9 and they do a great job on coyotes.

I think hornady offers its superformance varmint is .53gr? But I will check that might be confusing with .223?

Sorry Hoyt, I was mistaken .58gr for .243 .....winchester does make a .55gr in ballistic silver tip For the .243. It is a Nosler bullet.

 

[jrcarbine]

I shoot a savage model 11 also. I believe it is 1-9 twist. I have shot from .55 up to .85gr all weights have shot very well. I find best accuracy with .75gr v-max using 41 gr of IMR 4350. 65gr v-mav have done well also. I have hunted coyotes for about 10 years where kill numbers have been as high as 76/ season for a group of 8-10 hunters running dogs. The .243 IMO the best caliber to kill them DRT with. However it is not fur friendly. Skip saving the pelts... They're not worth much these days anyways.

Alright thanks man. I don't think i'm going to save the pelts anyway.