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My father in law passed away and we found a .22 pistol in the basement. I heard that some .22s were unrestricted but I am having a hard time finding information about it. Any one out there able to help me?
It's a Walther PPK
 
all pistols are restricted, if barrel is shorter than 4" I believe its prohib someone might correct me on that though

edit: if shorter than 105 mm
 
No, all handguns (other than some pre 1898 antiques) are considered restricted forearms. If the barrel is 105mm or less (and a PPK is I believe) it would be considered prohibited.

However,as I understand it, the executor of the estate is permitted to legally possess the firearm for the purpose of settling the estate and may give or sell it to anyone with the proper licence. Not sure if they have to register it first or if they do that in conjunction with the new owner. I'm assuming there is no paperwork/registration with it?
 
cdncableguy said:
My father in law passed away and we found a .22 pistol in the basement. I heard that some .22s were unrestricted but I am having a hard time finding information about it. Any one out there able to help me?
It's a Walther PPK
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If a restricted gun is found (not registered) it is possible to register it. In your case, it is most probably prohibited, (unless the barrel was changed), if it's not already registered, it will be impossible to register it.......
 
crasheralex said:
You either delete your can handle and change you IP address..(joking of course). I'd sell it to someone with a 12.6. Or you can hand it in to the cops to be melted down. Are the only options I know of.
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But are you allowed to sell it as a 12.6 if it was never registered by the original owner?
 
List it as an item with the rest of the estate. You don't need to rush into doing anything with it. Not sure if there's a timeline legally when an estate has to be closed. You could even have it verified and sell it to a holder of whichever PAL type is required
 
Information for Executors

While the Firearms Act sets out how firearms may be transferred and who may possess them, provincial estate laws determine the role of the executor. In Quebec, the Executor of an Estate is referred to as the Liquidator of the Succession.

While estate law may vary from province to province, an executor generally has the same rights the deceased had to possess firearms, while the estate is being settled. Even if an individual is not personally licensed to possess firearms, they can possess a firearm left in an estate for a reasonable amount of time while the estate is being settled.

An individual who is under a court-ordered prohibition from possessing firearms cannot take possession of firearms left in an estate. They can, however, act as executor and facilitate the transfer of the firearm(s) to someone who may lawfully acquire them.

If the deceased owner did not have
a.a firearms possession licence AND
b.a registration certificate for their restricted or prohibited firearm*,

they were in illegal possession of the firearm. This puts the executor at risk of penalties for possessing the firearm unless they act quickly to comply with the law.

To act as the executor and obtain information on the estate firearms, the executor is required to provide the following documentation to the RCMP Canadian Firearms Program (CFP):
•form RCMP 6016 Declaration of Authority to Act on Behalf of an Estate and
•confirmation that the registered owner is deceased: ◦the death certificate, or
â—¦letters of probate, or
â—¦a document (on letterhead) from a police department or coroner
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http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/will-testament-eng.htm
 
okcorral1881 said:
Unless there is something I don't know.....a 12.6 that is not registered yet, cannot be registered or imported. May be different for 12.6 made before 1946.
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Date of manufacture doesn't matter, if it meets the requirements for prohib status and it has never been registered, then it is supposed to be turned in for destruction. No exceptions, unless, on closer examination, it turned out to be a dewat.
 
Get it converted to a restricted length gun and your good to go. Cut/press the barrel off the frame and maybe register as frame only restricted??
 
geologist said:
I think the CFC would be OK with it as long as executor tells them that they will sell it to a 12(6) thereby bringing it into the system.
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nope, if it isn't registered it's illegal - not restricted and not prohib and not registerable in any way. It might be tough to find someone willing to convert it, since the only status it can ever have is illegal. The only way a prohib can enter the system is through a business licensed to import them from outside Canada for use by law enforcement or as a movie prop.
 
Changes are it is registered, unless it was smuggled into the country in the past.
95% of the time , there will be a green slip somewhere for it.
If not strip it to bare frame and the parts can be sold .
a 22 cal. PPK is rare , and expensive.
Exc. can phone firearms officer and give serial and name of owner and find the cert # and then
sell it to a 12-6 owner, once the estate is settled.
If it is not in the system, then it will have to be turned in., can't be rebarreled , legally, as it is not in the system.
No licenced gunsmith would have it in their shop.
Refer back to the strip it down comment. All you have to do is turn in the bare frame.
I have had RCMP say that the whole gun has to be turned in, but that is not the law.
 
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