Vz-58 vs sks
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Like most an sks was one of my first purchases, and I picked a real fine russian one with chrome barrel. Works great, but I rarely took it out because I don't like the attached magazine, it's heavy, and the cleaning process wasn't super easy considering I had to break it down to component parts almost due to the surplus ammo.
I grabbed a vz with the chrome barrel and the polymer hardware... First day out I ordered a bunch of brass and a die kit. So now I just shoot it and throw it back in storage. No corrosion issues and it just never ever stops working. Anyone that has function issues with an action that simple should be going to a gunsmith because I have never, not once, had a jam or feed issue with that thing, like not once.
Mine is drilled for the scope mount, but the iron sights are fantastic, in fact my front post is a bit loose, and somehow I still keep hitting the target. It's like it wants to shoot well. The sks just sits in the closet now, I don't want to waste good reloads on it, I don't buy surplus anymore, and it's not worth selling.
To me, the vz was something I should have bought years ago. I use it more than my AR-15 and I don't have to quadruple lock the thing and only use it at the range. Oh and I do agree with the 30/5 magazines being a bit silly, so I grabbed a few of the smaller ones. Looks less AK-47ish but just way easier to use. Lastly, when the zombies do come, this is the one I would grab as a service rifle, over anything else by far. Oh, and I do love the safety. I mean, if it's not jabbing you in the hand, it's not safe! What a simple, ingenious idea. The sks one is not bad, but a bit harder to manipulate.
I grabbed a vz with the chrome barrel and the polymer hardware... First day out I ordered a bunch of brass and a die kit. So now I just shoot it and throw it back in storage. No corrosion issues and it just never ever stops working. Anyone that has function issues with an action that simple should be going to a gunsmith because I have never, not once, had a jam or feed issue with that thing, like not once.
Mine is drilled for the scope mount, but the iron sights are fantastic, in fact my front post is a bit loose, and somehow I still keep hitting the target. It's like it wants to shoot well. The sks just sits in the closet now, I don't want to waste good reloads on it, I don't buy surplus anymore, and it's not worth selling.
To me, the vz was something I should have bought years ago. I use it more than my AR-15 and I don't have to quadruple lock the thing and only use it at the range. Oh and I do agree with the 30/5 magazines being a bit silly, so I grabbed a few of the smaller ones. Looks less AK-47ish but just way easier to use. Lastly, when the zombies do come, this is the one I would grab as a service rifle, over anything else by far. Oh, and I do love the safety. I mean, if it's not jabbing you in the hand, it's not safe! What a simple, ingenious idea. The sks one is not bad, but a bit harder to manipulate.
BeaverMeat
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My Vz58 (chrome barrel) is more accurate than my chi-com. So the Vz58 is ultimately more accurate because it's MY Vz58 and that means ALL Vz58s must be more accurate.
This. And add to this how many SKS vs VZ were sold in Canada. SKS = zero problems, VZ = fifty/fifty. Would I rely on VZ if ZSHTF (stands for Zombie SHTF)? No way. BTW I don't fancy both SKS and VZ, but I would definitely choose SKS.
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My Vz58 (chrome barrel) is more accurate than my chi-com. So the Vz58 is ultimately more accurate because it's MY Vz58 and that means ALL Vz58s must be more accurate.
well there ya go. LOL
I've not shot a CZ, but was somewhat unimpressed just handling it. Beaverpuke stock, WTF...for the price?
The draw with the SKS is the cheap reliability. I like the story about the fellow in deer camp who was getting ragged about his SKS. So he climbed a tree a short distance and threw it as far as he could! Then climbed down, brushed it off and looked around...OK, who wants to go next? No-one...
Brushed it off and continued hunting with it.
Anyone want to try that with a Cz, lol?
The draw with the SKS is the cheap reliability. I like the story about the fellow in deer camp who was getting ragged about his SKS. So he climbed a tree a short distance and threw it as far as he could! Then climbed down, brushed it off and looked around...OK, who wants to go next? No-one...
Brushed it off and continued hunting with it.
Anyone want to try that with a Cz, lol?
my sks and cz858 have been reliable close to a 100% and that is wiht a few thousand round down the pipe ... iwould take my cz over an ar15 ,
Yours, but not everybody's - that's the catch.
Love my SKS and have owned a CZ858, both worked great, but "as the last gun in the world" kinda gun SKS hands down. If I run out of ammo, I can still uses the stock as a tool ,and at the end of the day, I don't have to wonder where my clip is.....Yes the CZ/VZ are nicer looking and lighter and there is a lot more aftermarket parts. But I think your CZ/VZ will wear out a lot quicker. And a far accuracy both about the same!! If you shot ####ty ammo , you get .... will the same results.
Cheers
,and at the end of the day, I don't have to wonder where my clip is.....Yes the CZ/VZ are nicer looking and lighter and there is a lot more aftermarket parts. But I think your CZ/VZ will wear out a lot quicker. And a far accuracy both about the same!! If you shot ####ty ammo , you get .... will the same results. Cheers
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- Vancouver Island BC Canada
wtf
- Location
- Vancouver Island BC Canada
Sks has a rugged bayonet for impaling zombie skulls in close encounters too and may also launch grenades depending...
Now that's funny. Sounds like a scene from Triple X, the movie.
What they LOOK like isn't important unless your primary objective is to pose for selfies. But let's face it - neither of these is going to give you the bling-bling factor you crave in your selfies- you need something more exotic to make yourself really look good. Maybe a Tavor or an airsoft AR is what you need. Hey - I don't judge. LOL
If you plan to shoot it, then the VZ58 has somewhat better accuracy and much better ergonomics. The SKS is less accurate but probably tougher, although that is not guaranteed. The SKS is certainly less expensive. You could have two SKS - 1 for use and 1 for spare parts and still cost less than 1/2 the cost of a single VZ58.
Which is best for you depends on what you're going to do with it. If you plan on shooting old appliances at the gravel pit then the SKS is made for you. If burning a crate of milsurp ammo as fast as you can load is your thing, then you will be happy with the SKS. If you like to shoot paper targets and measure your groups you're going to be happier with the VZ58, although many SKS can be made to shoot quite respectably with handloads and tweeking.
I'd suggest EVERYONE needs at least one SKS and a crate of cheap milsurp ammo squirreled away somewhere, just as a matter of principle.
If you plan to shoot it, then the VZ58 has somewhat better accuracy and much better ergonomics. The SKS is less accurate but probably tougher, although that is not guaranteed. The SKS is certainly less expensive. You could have two SKS - 1 for use and 1 for spare parts and still cost less than 1/2 the cost of a single VZ58.
Which is best for you depends on what you're going to do with it. If you plan on shooting old appliances at the gravel pit then the SKS is made for you. If burning a crate of milsurp ammo as fast as you can load is your thing, then you will be happy with the SKS. If you like to shoot paper targets and measure your groups you're going to be happier with the VZ58, although many SKS can be made to shoot quite respectably with handloads and tweeking.
I'd suggest EVERYONE needs at least one SKS and a crate of cheap milsurp ammo squirreled away somewhere, just as a matter of principle.
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Patt08
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Something that has not been mentioned is that is easier to stomach feeding cheep and reliable corrosive ammo into the SKS than the VZ58. I have 3 SKSs and a CSA VZ58. My Bro also has a couple of SKSs and a CZ858. The ONLY problems that I have ever seen on the SKSs are related to aftermarket parts. My CSA has had a couple of misfeeds, literally like two. My bros cz858 has had zero issues except that the stripper clip guide does not retain stripper clips anywhere near as well as an SKS, and that is with Czech surplus. Anyway, as stated, buy one of each. I picked up an SKS like 2 years ago at Lever for like $150, definitely worth it. My CSA chrome was closer to $1100 and is not 7 times better, but if I could only have one it would be a vz58 for sure.The long barrel does look stupid at first, but you get used to it pretty quickly and it is definitely worth the trade off for non-restricted. Also, if you want folders, brakes, detachable mags and that kind of jazz, you don't need the aftermarket junk that goes on SKSs; you get quality metal parts. Also, buying all that stuff for an SKS drives the price up and the reliability down. Just my 2 cents.
buy the Lcw non corrosive stuff from Canadaammo....... its like .25 cents a shot, damn close to the price of corrosive. Never have to worry about rust again. i cant stop ranting about how much i love the stuff
