http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...s-54-000-hectares-up-for-development-1.824420
This is proof that we, the people of bc, are suckers
This is proof that we, the people of bc, are suckers
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As soon as Rifle season opened im shut out....
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Have you talked to the logging company yet?A friend of mine got an leh draw for elk a few years ago and wanted access to an area with a locked gate.All he had to do was give them a deposit and they gave him a key for the gates.When his hunt was over he gave the key back and got his deposit back.Judging by what I have seen in the bush around here i am not surprised they are locking the gates,a few people ruin it for everyone.
Leh for an elk draw im guessing is a different deal for the logging company. They may have 2 draws per zone. Thats just 2 keys. 2 people.
Then your dealing with every hunter on the island who also wants a key? No chance of that anymore. What is happening is a gradual year by year tightening and restricting of access to that area. One company alone owns 11 % of the island. What isnt owned is leased under their control.
They seem to think a small window of access is sufficient. It isnt.
There are some dead end roads that are not gate locked, but one really needs to drive all the way to the other side of the island, camp overnight, then start in the morning.
This is the official response. ....
http://www.timberwest.com/community/access/recreational-access.aspx
As you can see it is a small window of opportunity, at least in Comox you can have the whole weekend.
Then your dealing with every hunter on the island who also wants a key? No chance of that anymore. What is happening is a gradual year by year tightening and restricting of access to that area. One company alone owns 11 % of the island. What isnt owned is leased under their control.
They seem to think a small window of access is sufficient. It isnt.
There are some dead end roads that are not gate locked, but one really needs to drive all the way to the other side of the island, camp overnight, then start in the morning.
This is the official response. ....
http://www.timberwest.com/community/access/recreational-access.aspx
As you can see it is a small window of opportunity, at least in Comox you can have the whole weekend.
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The logging equipment parked up on the hills is privately owned by contractors not the land owners. On way too many occasions that equipment gets shot up, fuel stolen or vandalize in one way or another sometimes costing 10's of thousands of $$ to repair and in down time. Who wouldn't put up gates with that happening on a regular basis?
If you're the kind of person that takes up a generator and cutoff saw to gain access by damaging the gate, you may face charges for your actions. Even if the gate is open you are likely getting your picture taken with one of their many roaming surveillance cameras.
Best plan of action...talk to the company. Tell them who you are and where you would like to go and what you want to do. If they grant you access, help them by not leaving a mess, put out your campfire and report others that are doing damage and screwing it up for everyone else.
If you're the kind of person that takes up a generator and cutoff saw to gain access by damaging the gate, you may face charges for your actions. Even if the gate is open you are likely getting your picture taken with one of their many roaming surveillance cameras.
Best plan of action...talk to the company. Tell them who you are and where you would like to go and what you want to do. If they grant you access, help them by not leaving a mess, put out your campfire and report others that are doing damage and screwing it up for everyone else.
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This is a perfect response.
I'm in the same boat (and place) as the OP. It's brutal for access and gets worse every year.
That being said, it's not the logging company's fault. It's the roaming pile of dicks out there abusing the privilege of access to private land. It is private land now, thank the government at the time for that.
If you left the gate at the end of your driveway open and someone stole your boat or defaced your house while you were out, would you not then start locking the gate when you left home?
This is a perfect response.
I'm in the same boat (and place) as the OP. It's brutal for access and gets worse every year.
That being said, it's not the logging company's fault. It's the roaming pile of dicks out there abusing the privilege of access to private land. It is private land now, thank the government at the time for that.
If you left the gate at the end of your driveway open and someone stole your boat or defaced your house while you were out, would you not then start locking the gate when you left home?
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I bet the OP would be singing a different tune if it was his land and property that was getting vandalized.
Sorry but private property mean they make the rules not you.
The same people that waved their magic wands and said you own your land/house.
Or do you have no problem with me doing what ever I want when ever I want on your land?
Because you know:
Shawn
Sorry but private property mean they make the rules not you.
The same people that waved their magic wands and said you own your land/house.
Or do you have no problem with me doing what ever I want when ever I want on your land?
Because you know:
Shawn
Thats not at all true. Your stating its perfectly fine for a private company(s) to either own or have control over 90%+ of all the land on vancouver island? The deals were made for jobs years ago.....now most work is automated and not even labour intensive. The companies dont want to pay a minimum wage dude to guard the gear? Cheap corporate bastards think its easier to gradually phase out hunters or rec vehicles from the forest in general.
Sorry, no way im buying that crap. My family have been in forestry since pioneer days on this island. This is a recent phenomena, and completly unnessasary.
A queen comes in and declares all this is mine! Later its pieced out in parcels for either nothing or next to nothing. Umm there were people living here first actually.....
So the bottom line is "it all belongs to me....go back home and hunt on your ps4 "
The sad fact is the common person here does't realize its not their public land
Sorry, no way im buying that crap. My family have been in forestry since pioneer days on this island. This is a recent phenomena, and completly unnessasary.
A queen comes in and declares all this is mine! Later its pieced out in parcels for either nothing or next to nothing. Umm there were people living here first actually.....
So the bottom line is "it all belongs to me....go back home and hunt on your ps4 "
The sad fact is the common person here does't realize its not their public land
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Phat Eagle
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Are you members of the local Fish and Game Club? Maybe you can ask your Executive to approach the companies.
nowarningshot
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In the blue corner....and in the red/orange corners.
Yeah, Well that's life...... People were here first, and others are here now. Suggestions have been offered that might actually help your cause.....
If your just going to continue to piss and moan about it, then maybe you should just go hunt on your PS4.
So TAKE IT BACK, get organized and put an end to it.
Where I live, some ######s with a wood lot licence put up gates and boulders and signs in a prime hunting area and one I frequent every year. The gate was dismantled, only to be rebuilt a week later.
Couple calls to ministry and local authorities and gate was removed for good.
Not all gates are legally placed.
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there was once an area that we liked and hunted on it. It was crown land and a farmer was using part of it for hay land and put up a locked chain across the entrance. I inquired with the CO's and they said the farmer is supposed to have the chain down and unlocked at hunting time, but the farmer didn't. I happened to have a key that worked in a lot of different locks, must have been a master key of some sort. It worked in the farmers lock. We let ourselves in and relocked the lock, same thing on the way out. I knew exactly what to say if the farmer came along and wanted to kick us out, but we never did run into him. Too bad, in a way!
