IDPA New 1-second point down penalty scoring

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Anyone else concerned the new IDPA change from 0.5-sec to 1-sec per point down rule will penalize their developed pistol shooting style? I think it does not matter to someone who can always shoot zero down. I do not, so enjoy the effectiveness of a sometimes speedy hustle to make up for my point downs. This change halves the speed effectiveness.

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Eric
 
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private1313 said:
Anyone else concerned the new IDPA change from 0.5-sec to 1-sec per point down rule will Penalize their developed pistol shooting style? I think it does not matter to Someone who can always shoot zero down. I do not, but Enjoy the effectiveness Of a sometimes speedy hustle, to make up for my point downs. This change Halves the speed effectiveness.

Ouch!
Eric
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Yes I agree this change will definitely favor the higher skilled shooters and result in a considerably larger time spread between the higher level shooters and the rest of the pack. I am definitely not in favor.

John
 
The 1-second rule has not yet been implemented. I hope it never is!

I really think it will have a negative effect on the newer shooters. The skilled competitors are going to run away from the rest of the field even more than they do now. Between this and the stupid 'calling cover from the center of the target' rule I really wonder who HQ is listening to when they cook this stuff up.

I wonder what their point is?

John
 
Generally I'm in favor, as were Vickers and Hackathorn years ago.
They discuss it at about the 5:00 mark



Baxtercharlie said:
I'm kind of undecided. I also use shooting speed to overcome sloppy shot placement. It will be interesting to see what the classifier times get adjusted to
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Exactly the reason why it should have been done from the beginning.
I think where it will hurt is on the swingers / drop turner where shot placement can be difficult at the best of times.
It will force the "sprinters" to slow it down a notch and will bump the slower, but accurate, shooters up in the standings.

If it comes into effect, it probably won't be until next year at the earliest.
 
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New drinking game...

Every time Larry or Ken says "in the real world"..... Down a shot.
 
Okay watched the video.....sounds like some sour grapes?....didn't get their way back in the day so now.......blah blah blah.... this isn't 'real world' it's a game...the current 1/2 second penalty does a very nice job of balancing speed and accuracy. One second penalty will definitely change the game and slow it down. I don't shoot IDPA anywhere as quickly as IPSC but I still like to try to go fast as I can and still be accurate...would hate to see a change like this that I think will have take a lot of the real fun factor out of the game.

John
 
One second penalty will definitely change the game and slow it down. I don't shoot IDPA anywhere as quickly as IPSC
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I would assume that this is the entire point of the rule change.

They want to make a clear distinction between IDPA and IPSC.

They want IDPA to be a unique game, with unique skills and strategies. Nothing wrong with that.
 
Dexter Morgan said:
I would assume that this is the entire point of the rule change.

They want to make a clear distinction between IDPA and IPSC.

They want IDPA to be a unique game, with unique skills and strategies. Nothing wrong with that.
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More likely they want to make a clear distinction between IDPA and USPSA. They don't like USPSA GM's winning at their world championships?
 
pmt said:
More likely they want to make a clear distinction between IDPA and USPSA. They don't like USPSA GM's winning at their world championships?
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The top shooters will always be the top shooters. It doesn't matter which game they're playing. My take-away is that they're trying to rebalance scoring to make the game more accuracy-based. In IDPA as well as IPSC it's always bugged the hell out me that someone can win with a crappy target so long as they miss faster than the next guy.
 
Faster shooters are in a different class then slow shooters, so people are always shooting against people in their own division.... Everyone is penalized the same so what's the big deal..... 1 second or 5 seconds it's all the same
 
The talk about IPSC shooters not being as accurate as IDPA shooters is way off base. As for the new IDPA rule I think it really only helps the less athletic shooters. Most of the fast guys who drop some points could easily slow down and drop none or next to none. For some reason people think hosers are not accurate. Maybe the ones who get a lot of Mikes but the guys just dropping Charlies can easily slow down and get Alphas or zero down.
 
cbabes said:
The talk about IPSC shooters not being as accurate as IDPA shooters is way off base.
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Can we please leave IPSC out of this thread? It's about IDPA changing their ruleset.
Mentioning IPSC in will only degenerate it into yet another IDPA vs. IPSC #### measuring contest...
 
TinkerBell said:
Faster shooters are in a different class then slow shooters, so people are always shooting against people in their own division.... Everyone is penalized the same so what's the big deal..... 1 second or 5 seconds it's all the same
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I agree, the people winning are still going to win, If their winning now then there probably fast and accurate. However, this rule will change there mindset and the pace of the game, the odd "-1" will no longer be acceptable so they will be slowing down to get all "0"s. It could defiantly take some of the fun out of a hoser stage.
 
Freedom Ventures said:
Can we please leave IPSC out of this thread? It's about IDPA changing their ruleset.
Mentioning IPSC in will only degenerate it into yet another IDPA vs. IPSC #### measuring contest...
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Sure whatever. Was not my intention. They are both games I have played or still play that many have fun at. I'll go f$&king walk on eggs shells somewhere else.
 
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