IDPA New 1-second point down penalty scoring

cbabes said:
Sure whatever. Was not my intention. They are both games I have played or still play that many have fun at. I'll go f$&king walk on eggs shells somewhere else.
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I don't think your post was a problem. Freedom Ventures was just being pro-active about what might come next (and too often does). Fwiw.
 
Lol Streissand Effect! Now we're all gonna start discussing Freedom Ventures' post. Bottom line is that it's been scientifically proven that IPSC guys are 0.89" longer than IDPA guys, but they will all fall off unless you compete in CQB :cool:

On a serious note, I think this is a good direction for IDPA to take even though it won't affect the standings for anyone but total newbs. Top-notch, good, intermediate and advanced beginner shooters will just adjust their style for more accuracy.
 
I would love to see the statement of the problem that this is supposed to be the solution for. It'll slow down the fast and accurate shooters a tiny bit and it'll slow down the slower, less accurate shooters a lot - producing a bigger spread in scores. Any Marksman who thinks this will level the playing field is dreaming in technicolour. The likely unintended consequence will be lower skill level shooters throwing extra shots at targets and overall more rounds missing targets (which should irritate the folks who think that IDPA is training for the 'real world'). I've only been doing IDPA for a couple of years but the rule wonkiness and the authoritarian administration at HQ is getting old, fast. Canadian Defensive Pistol anyone?
 
cbabes said:
Sure whatever. Was not my intention. They are both games I have played or still play that many have fun at. I'll go f$&king walk on eggs shells somewhere else.
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No offense intended, Chris - and sorry if I suggested any - just what CV32 said - trying to be proactive.
 
I agree with what the result will be of the IDPA rule change, and I also agree with the decision to try and nudge the game more towards accuracy and less towards a cardio contest.

Different goals in IPSC and IDPA, so no point in comparing them objectively, because they can't be compared. The only thing will be how the individual player perceives each to be, or what they each get out of it personally.

Besides, it's not like they're each trying to be 3 gun or something......cou:
 
those stages reminds me when I started shooting IPSC in the early 80's as a Junior shooter, , now shooting as a Senior, wow- time flies
 
I'm glad that IDPA wants to make their game different than IPSC.

Really; Whats the point of having another league, if it's just more of the same?

Just think of it as 9-Ball vs Snooker.
Both are billiards, and both take lots of skill.

But the games are played much differently, because of their different scoring systems.
 
Let's put it this way...... anyone who doesn't think - or know for that matter- that IPSC and IDPA are VERY different games hasn't shot enough of both of them.

As someone earlier posted, this change - similar to the change to the cover rules a few years ago- is another solution looking for a problem.

The only effect this is going to have is slow the game down for the intermediate to lower level shooters and increase the spread between them and the top level......and to what purpose?

All the references in the video to 'real world' are just irritating.....this a game - not training.......it's a Game! Isn't this what HQ has been preaching? If this 'game' is supposed to be 'real world' training they had better get busy and rewrite a lot more rules than this one.

Why oh why can't they leave well enough alone?

John
 
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Dexter Morgan said:
I'm glad that IDPA wants to make their game different than IPSC.

Really; Whats the point of having another league, if it's just more of the same?

Just think of it as 9-Ball vs Snooker.
Both are billiards, and both take lots of skill.

But the games are played much differently, because of their different scoring systems.
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The scoring system is not the major difference between the two games. The use of a concealment garment, cover and ammo/magazine retention are the biggest differences between the two disciplines. The BIG difference is scripted vs. freestyle stages!

John
 
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John in B.C. said:
The scoring system is not the major difference between the two games. The use of a concealment garment, cover and ammo/magazine retention are the biggest differences between the two disciplines.

John
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I would consider the scoring to be a pretty big difference. Sink a stage in IDPA, sink your match. That's the downside of time-plus. Sinking a stage in IPSC won't win you any matches, but you won't be at the bottom of the pack either...you can come back from it.
 
Onagoth said:
I would consider the scoring to be a pretty big difference. Sink a stage in IDPA, sink your match. That's the downside of time-plus. Sinking a stage in IPSC won't win you any matches, but you won't be at the bottom of the pack either...you can come back from it.
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I have won lots of matches in both games after 'sinking' a stage.

On the other hand I stepped out of bounds during an IPSC Nats and it cost me the match.......one of the few times I tried shooting a match deliberately and strategically.

Just saying.......as a rule I never think about the scoring and it never affects how I shoot a stage.

Anyhow...... this rule change - just like the current center of target cover rule - will add zero to the game and will never have my support. Imagine HQ's disappointment !! Lol

If it happens it happens and we will carry on having fun :)

John
 
private1313 said:
Anyone else concerned the new IDPA change from 0.5-sec to 1-sec per point down rule will Penalize their developed pistol shooting style? I think it does not matter to Someone who can always shoot zero down. I do not, so Enjoy the effectiveness Of a sometimes speedy hustle to make up for my point downs. This change Halves the speed effectiveness.

Ouch!
Eric
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The change is not effective yet. Not at all sure why it was announced so early. The change will not be made until a thorough review of the existing penalties, the Classifier and the shooting rules is made. Much to do about nothing at this point. The points down remain 1/2 per PD. I doubt it will become effective until 2017 at the earliest if it ever does.

Bob Bonenfant
I.P.O.C. - Canada
 
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