Hunter Orange Necessary?

Who cares how long it takes to identify the target so long as the shooting doesn't commence prior to the target being identified. If you can't tell that the noise is Joe in his camo jacket then you sure as hell can't tell that the noise is a deer. Thus, hold off on the shooting.

If that works for you...fine. Personally when I hear a branch snap and then a minute later hear another one my adrenaline starts to rise and the sooner I can identify the source the better I like it. The orange "sure as hell" differentiates Joe from the deer.
 
It reminds me of a situation that happend here in southern Ontario. There was a lady who used to walk the woods of a public tract of land intentionally disturbing the peace to prevent deer hunters from shooting a deer. This lady continued to do this on a daily basis until she was shot and killed. The individual who killed her was charged and eventually exonerated because his lawyer was able to raise reasonable doubt that the hunter took a shot at a deer and that there could have been a "flyaway" buck shot that went off course too kill the lady who was standing feet away from the supposed deer. Hmmmmm.....ya thats what happened!?!

I watched a program on television about that shooting. The information on television stated that the hunter that fired the shot was hunting closer to houses that the regulations allow, and listening to the information provided, there was no proof that there was a deer where the hunter claimed. It sounds like it came down to the hunter being a local person that everyone knew and liked, and the woman was a newer resident that was not well known or liked. Based on the information presented, I believe that the hunter was negligent, and should have been convicted.
 
If that works for you...fine. Personally when I hear a branch snap and then a minute later hear another one my adrenaline starts to rise and the sooner I can identify the source the better I like it. The orange "sure as hell" differentiates Joe from the deer.

If your adrenaline rising causes you to get so excited that you need to see orange to be certain that a person is not an animal, then for the safety of the public, you should not be hunting.
 
If your adrenaline rising causes you to get so excited that you need to see orange to be certain that a person is not an animal, then for the safety of the public, you should not be hunting.

If I write the word "black" do you read it as "white"? It seems you want to put your own distorted interpretation on what is written.
 
It reminds me of a situation that happend here in southern Ontario. There was a lady who used to walk the woods of a public tract of land intentionally disturbing the peace to prevent deer hunters from shooting a deer. This lady continued to do this on a daily basis until she was shot and killed. The individual who killed her was charged and eventually exonerated because his lawyer was able to raise reasonable doubt that the hunter took a shot at a deer and that there could have been a "flyaway" buck shot that went off course too kill the lady who was standing feet away from the supposed deer. Hmmmmm.....ya thats what happened!?!

Weeks ago, I was browsing through the N.S. list of wildlife-related fines, and there was one for people who disturb the hunt.

Ontario has a law like this. http://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/97f41#s13s1 (13.1b)

Someone doing this on a daily basis ought to be easy enough to report.
 
After reading many of the posts here I am really surprised at the arguments put forth against the use of blaze orange. To me the wearing of orange for hunters and road personal etc. is a no brainer. Yes it will not protect you from all the blind morons and sound shooters of the world, hopefully though the vast majority of them. Ones goal is to increase your chances of survival and stay out of the marble orchard, I firmly believe the wearing of blaze orange does increase your chances of survival.
 
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After reading many of the posts here I am really surprised at the arguments put forth against the use of blaze orange. To me the wearing of orange for hunters and road personal etc. is a no brainer. Yes it will not protect you from all the blind morons and sound shooters of the world, hopefully though the vast majority of them.

Road workers are not the same as hunters. It's always good for a road worker to be seen by everyone, but if having another hunter see me results in an idiot pointing a loaded firearm at me, for any reason, I would rather the idiot doesn't see me at all. Now if everyone carried binoculars and used them, instead of resorting to something so asinine as using a riflescope to look at an unidentified object, or worse yet something that they already know is a hunter, that would be different. Anyone that intentionally points a firearm at another hunter, should have his scope smashed against a tree, and a boot driven against his private parts.
 
I doubt you would have felt any more or less comfortable if the same thing happened and you were not wearing orange.
why would it happen if I was not first seen with the naked eye? You would likely see a shooter pass over your area if you are wearing camo rather than hold on your location like I experienced wearing blaze.
 
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Road workers are not the same as hunters. It's always good for a road worker to be seen by everyone, but if having another hunter see me results in an idiot pointing a loaded firearm at me, for any reason, I would rather the idiot doesn't see me at all. Now if everyone carried binoculars and used them, instead of resorting to something so asinine as using a riflescope to look at an unidentified object, or worse yet something that they already know is a hunter, that would be different. Anyone that intentionally points a firearm at another hunter, should have his scope smashed against a tree, and a boot driven against his private parts.

Most times on this site I agree with you but this time your logic one cannot even comprehend
What makes you think he will not see something if you are in camo??? Then what??
Did you ever read some of the reports from the US back in the 90's when they were killing each other hunting hand over fist and look again at these states today
The introduction of hunters orange is deemed clearly as one of the main factors in making hunting safer , In NY where a ton of studies where done back then they have seen something like a 75% reduction in hunting shooting fatalities since 1960 vs today
During those studies they also quoted in many reports

Actual Data gathered showed A big game hunter not wearing hunter orange was 7.7 times more likely to be shot by another hunter in the regular firearms season in New York between 1989 and 1993.

Why roll the dice with your life??

Guess it doesn't work which is why it is now a requirement in 40 US states and 6 provinces with 2 more provinces recommending it and only two NOT
Christ it is even a requirement in my old hills of WV where normally anything goes but even hillbillies see it makes a difference in their safety

It is a no brianer as another member stated
Cheers
 
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Most times on this site I agree with you but this time your logic one cannot even comprehend
What makes you think he will not see something if you are in camo??? Then what??
Did you ever read some of the reports from the US back in the 90's when they were killing each other hunting hand over fist and look again at these states today
The introduction of hunters orange is deemed clearly as one of the main factors in making hunting safer , In NY where a ton of studies where done back then they have seen something like a 75% reduction in hunting shooting fatalities since 1960 vs today
During those studies they also quoted in many reports

Actual Data gathered showed A big game hunter not wearing hunter orange was 7.7 times more likely to be shot by another hunter in the regular firearms season in New York between 1989 and 1993.

Why roll the dice with your life??

Guess it doesn't work which is why it is now a requirement in 40 US states and 6 provinces with 2 more provinces recommending it and only two NOT
Christ it is even a requirement in my old hills of WV where normally anything goes but even hillbillies see it makes a difference in their safety

It is a no brianer as another member stated
Cheers

So why is it no longer required in Alberta? Why didn't accidental shootings increase when the hunter orange requirement was done away with in Alberta ?

As for New York, I don't hunt in New York, and I have no desire to hunt anywhere , where there are so many hunters in such a small amount of hunting area, and where so many hunters appear to be idiots that shoot at anything that moves.
 
So why is it no longer required in Alberta? Why didn't accidental shootings increase when the hunter orange requirement was done away with in Alberta ?

As for New York, I don't hunt in New York, and I have no desire to hunt anywhere , where there are so many hunters in such a small amount of hunting area, and where so many hunters appear to be idiots that shoot at anything that moves.

Have no idea why not required in all of alberta nor does that matter or make it safer. Is it not required when hunting areas that are also used sometimes as military training areas???? I think so and seems the military sees the value
I only used NY since there has been a lot of studies there on this subject
Do what you like it is your life but you are rolling the dice especially with some I see in the woods today
This is kind of like I did some years ago when wearing the seat belt became law unfortunately it took my head just about going through a windshield and losing most of the sight in my right eye to make me see the importance and wear one every time I drive

Yep that is why I was forced to shoot left handed and real lucky I am still here to even do that
IMO someone looking through a scope at you wearing hunters orange vs trying to hide from them is just a matter of when there is an incedent of some type. It only takes one idiot out there
In fact someone could be just shooting at a deer in an opening and you could be hiding out in your camo many many yards behind it in the line of fire. At least they may pick up something with the orange on in the back ground before they pull that trigger

Here they probally don't shoot well enough to kill you on a long shot but once field dressed you are toast :)

Cheers
 
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Most times on this site I agree with you but this time your logic one cannot even comprehend
What makes you think he will not see something if you are in camo??? Then what??
Did you ever read some of the reports from the US back in the 90's when they were killing each other hunting hand over fist and look again at these states today
The introduction of hunters orange is deemed clearly as one of the main factors in making hunting safer , In NY where a ton of studies where done back then they have seen something like a 75% reduction in hunting shooting fatalities since 1960 vs today
During those studies they also quoted in many reports

Actual Data gathered showed A big game hunter not wearing hunter orange was 7.7 times more likely to be shot by another hunter in the regular firearms season in New York between 1989 and 1993.

Why roll the dice with your life??

Guess it doesn't work which is why it is now a requirement in 40 US states and 6 provinces with 2 more provinces recommending it and only two NOT
Christ it is even a requirement in my old hills of WV where normally anything goes but even hillbillies see it makes a difference in their safety

It is a no brianer as another member stated
Cheers

Using a rational argument won't work against an irrational one.
 
It's much like the safety on a lot of guns that didn't used to have them. Unnecessary. Unfortunately you live in a Nanny province that dictates additional "precautions".
 
Since i moved to canada i had to wear the orange for hunting
And been shot at 3 times in 5 years.

I hunted in cammo back in the UK and didnt get shot at once
 
I watched a program on television about that shooting. The information on television stated that the hunter that fired the shot was hunting closer to houses that the regulations allow, and listening to the information provided, there was no proof that there was a deer where the hunter claimed. It sounds like it came down to the hunter being a local person that everyone knew and liked, and the woman was a newer resident that was not well known or liked. Based on the information presented, I believe that the hunter was negligent, and should have been convicted.

I seem to recall some of that info as being correct. But as far as hunting near houses, that is far from the truth. I've hunted the tract of land where the "accident" took place. The land is managed by Simcoe County and can be used for numerous outdoor activities, including hunting with a firearm. There are signs posted at all the entrances of the property of what activities are allowed to take place. There is a well defined sign, with visuals for the illiterates, that indicate hunting is permitted. I agree there should have been a conviction if what we believe to be the truth is in fact the truth. But it was chalked up to an unfortunate accident.
 
Weeks ago, I was browsing through the N.S. list of wildlife-related fines, and there was one for people who disturb the hunt.

Ontario has a law like this. http://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/97f41#s13s1 (13.1b)

Someone doing this on a daily basis ought to be easy enough to report.

It is well known amongst the hunters I personally know that anyone who interferes with a legal hunt is breaking the law. Unfortunately, not many other people are aware of the laws that protect anglers, hunters and trappers. An old neighbour of mine was once harrassed to the point that police were called. The individual harrassing him was actually the one who called police because he felt he had the "upper hand" given that he was not carrying a firearm. When the police investigated the incident, the individual who called the cops ended up being charged. I believe the charges were for harrassment and/or disturbing the peace.

As for the lady, from what I recall or have been told was that she was apparently reported numerous times and charges were never laid as it was believed that she suffered some form of mental illness. I dont recall if there was ever any conclusive information regarding a mental illness, but I recall that not being the case.
 
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