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Does anyone have any experience with matched scope rings (they are made from the same piece of material then sold in pairs). I wanted to get TPS but can't find a Canadian dealer, looked at Badger. Any others?
 
Does anyone have any experience with matched scope rings (they are made from the same piece of material then sold in pairs). I wanted to get TPS but can't find a Canadian dealer, looked at Badger. Any others?

There are several versions of "matched" rings.
We make our rings differently and they are 100% identical from 1 to the other of said pair. They have to be, due to the manner in which we manufacture them which is unlike virtually all other rings on the market.
Most rings , even the 1s that claim to be matched sets have a LARGE gap between either the ring halves like badger, NF, Leupold, Vortex, Farrel, TPS as well as most other brands. ATRS rings have a .010" gap between the ring halves which coincidentally is the width of the EDM wire used to cut the rings in half.

OP I see you are local, why not come by and see for yourself the difference between our rings and the rest?
 
There are several versions of "matched" rings.
We make our rings differently and they are 100% identical from 1 to the other of said pair. They have to be, due to the manner in which we manufacture them which is unlike virtually all other rings on the market.
Most rings , even the 1s that claim to be matched sets have a LARGE gap between either the ring halves like badger, NF, Leupold, Vortex, Farrel, TPS as well as most other brands. ATRS rings have a .010" gap between the ring halves which coincidentally is the width of the EDM wire used to cut the rings in half.

OP I see you are local, why not come by and see for yourself the difference between our rings and the rest?

That's only 6 thou of diametral interference, assuming nominal diameters of both, which neither will ever be. Do you cut to a smaller ID to permit sufficient clamping force on undersized tubes?
 
That's only 6 thou of diametral interference, assuming nominal diameters of both, which neither will ever be. Do you cut to a smaller ID to permit sufficient clamping force on undersized tubes?

No. The better quality scopes have pretty good tolerances for tube diameter. Typical of ATRS we work with exact numbers so our 30mm and 34mm rings are in fact 30mm or 34mm inside diameter. With a .010 gap between the upper and lower rings there is still plenty of "crush" available to keep the scope in place even with the heaviest recoiling rifles.
To date we have encountered only 1 30mm scope that would not stay put and it was a low quality offshore product made specifically for 1 of the big box stores. Typically those looking for high quality rings are using them on a high quality optic.
 
No. The better quality scopes have pretty good tolerances for tube diameter. Typical of ATRS we work with exact numbers so our 30mm and 34mm rings are in fact 30mm or 34mm inside diameter. With a .010 gap between the upper and lower rings there is still plenty of "crush" available to keep the scope in place even with the heaviest recoiling rifles.
To date we have encountered only 1 30mm scope that would not stay put and it was a low quality offshore product made specifically for 1 of the big box stores. Typically those looking for high quality rings are using them on a high quality optic.

That's really interesting. Thanks for the reply. I wonder if a fit class could be obtained from the scope manufacturers themselves?

With a wire EDM machine, you could tailor matched rings to the truly premium brands. That might require better tolerances in the rail than are required, when all is said and done.
 
That's really interesting. Thanks for the reply. I wonder if a fit class could be obtained from the scope manufacturers themselves?

With a wire EDM machine, you could tailor matched rings to the truly premium brands. That might require better tolerances in the rail than are required, when all is said and done.

We used to be 1 of the highest volume NF dealers in the world, so tailored our rings for the NF line. SB also are very consistent with their dimensions so our products fit them perfectly as well. Several other of the better quality scopes have very good dimensional tolerances so can employ precise fit rings rather than rings that either have 2 different ring half dimensions or huge gaps for the screws to make up for the tolerances.

We started to manufacture both rings and rails simply because the tolerances on so many of the big name ring and rail makers are not consistent and the materials used are normally mild steel for rails. Many try to hide the fact of poor design by massive advertising or adding multiple fasteners or other gimmicks to sway the uninformed to purchase their product.

Although I do not recommend using finger tightness to hold scope rings onto a rail, I tried shooting my 338 Lapua with the SB12x50 scope torqued to 10 inch pounds in the rings and just finger tight on the cross bolts and the scope did not move even after 50 rounds were put through the rifle.
Having as close to 100% mating contact on all parts makes a huge difference in how little force is required to keep things in place.
 
There are several versions of "matched" rings.
We make our rings differently and they are 100% identical from 1 to the other of said pair. They have to be, due to the manner in which we manufacture them which is unlike virtually all other rings on the market.
Most rings , even the 1s that claim to be matched sets have a LARGE gap between either the ring halves like badger, NF, Leupold, Vortex, Farrel, TPS as well as most other brands. ATRS rings have a .010" gap between the ring halves which coincidentally is the width of the EDM wire used to cut the rings in half.

OP I see you are local, why not come by and see for yourself the difference between our rings and the rest?

Had a quick question. I already have a torque wrench. What size socket would I need for the side and hex or star size for the top of the ring? Thanks
 
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