Desert Tech MDR Pre-sale

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FINALLY!!!!
DESERT TECH would like to announce that we will begin to take pre-sale orders for the highly-anticipated Micro Dynamic Rifle at the upcoming SHOT Show in Las Vegas NV. More details will be released as we get closer to the big event including options you will have if you cannot make it in person but still want to pre-order the Next Great American Rifle.

Once again . . .

MDR PRE-SALE
Begins January 19, 2016
SHOT Show
Sands Convention Center
Las Vegas NV

. . . More Details Coming!



Of course, this is for the USA.
RCMP Tech lab will take a moment...
 
They certainly know how to build the hype.

I will take solace in the fact that all the kinks will have been worked out, and the Loonie might recover before
we see them here.
 
Don't get too excited yet. When I spoke to one of the guys at DT he told me they would only be making the 16 inch barrels for the first year to meet the US demand then once things slowed down a little they would start doing the 18.6 inch ones and the other caliber options and conversion kits would be after that.
So we'll be waiting a while before there's one for the RCMP to look at then the usual decade while they try to come up with a reason to say no.
I think we would be better off not giving them a restricted version to look at first, the way the RCMP have been I think once they see the restricted version they may not allow the longer barrel version to be non restricted.

I really want one of these rifles. I sure hope we see them before 2020
 
Don't get too excited yet. When I spoke to one of the guys at DT he told me they would only be making the 16 inch barrels for the first year to meet the US demand then once things slowed down a little they would start doing the 18.6 inch ones and the other caliber options and conversion kits would be after that.
So we'll be waiting a while before there's one for the RCMP to look at then the usual decade while they try to come up with a reason to say no.
I think we would be better off not giving them a restricted version to look at first, the way the RCMP have been I think once they see the restricted version they may not allow the longer barrel version to be non restricted.

I really want one of these rifles. I sure hope we see them before 2020

Actually I think I'll disagree with you on that. Like the ACR, once an FRT is issued as "restricted" for a firearm, it's but a simple FRT sub-entry to add a non-restricted addition if it's only restricted due to barrel length. Considering the wait times on the RCMP for creating new FRT entries I think it would be a MUCH better idea to get one in ASAP and have it verified as Restricted by barrel length, then like the ACR get a new entry added for NR.

In fact I think the RCMP would be more likely to do a restricted FRT sooner than a non-restricted FRT, but who knows in reality. Really wanting one of these though!
 
Actually I think I'll disagree with you on that. Like the ACR, once an FRT is issued as "restricted" for a firearm, it's but a simple FRT sub-entry to add a non-restricted addition if it's only restricted due to barrel length. Considering the wait times on the RCMP for creating new FRT entries I think it would be a MUCH better idea to get one in ASAP and have it verified as Restricted by barrel length, then like the ACR get a new entry added for NR.
yes, submit one asap
 
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Actually I think I'll disagree with you on that. Like the ACR, once an FRT is issued as "restricted" for a firearm, it's but a simple FRT sub-entry to add a non-restricted addition if it's only restricted due to barrel length. Considering the wait times on the RCMP for creating new FRT entries I think it would be a MUCH better idea to get one in ASAP and have it verified as Restricted by barrel length, then like the ACR get a new entry added for NR.

In fact I think the RCMP would be more likely to do a restricted FRT sooner than a non-restricted FRT, but who knows in reality. Really wanting one of these though!

Is that why ATRS refuses to build a restricted version of the MH or the MV?
The way the RCMP lab has been trying to reclass things you don't want any association with a restricted version at all. Just because they can simply make a sub entry doesn't mean they will and just because we got lucky enough to do NR conversions with the ACR doesn't mean they'll let you do it with a different rifle.
Who's going to spend this much money on a restricted rifle like this anyway? We may not be as lucky as we were with the ACR either. The ACR pretty much uses an AR barrel with a slightly smaller gas port making aftermarket conversion barrels easy, the MDR may use a proprietary barrel extension so we won't be able to do NR conversions until they get around to making them at the factory.
Disagree all you want but sometimes a little patience pays off big in the end and rushing something to the table will screw you in the long run once they already have it in their head that it's restricted.
 
Is that why ATRS refuses to build a restricted version of the MH or the MV?
The way the RCMP lab has been trying to reclass things you don't want any association with a restricted version at all. Just because they can simply make a sub entry doesn't mean they will and just because we got lucky enough to do NR conversions with the ACR doesn't mean they'll let you do it with a different rifle.
Who's going to spend this much money on a restricted rifle like this anyway? We may not be as lucky as we were with the ACR either. The ACR pretty much uses an AR barrel with a slightly smaller gas port making aftermarket conversion barrels easy, the MDR may use a proprietary barrel extension so we won't be able to do NR conversions until they get around to making them at the factory.
Disagree all you want but sometimes a little patience pays off big in the end and rushing something to the table will screw you in the long run once they already have it in their head that it's restricted.

Well I think ATRS doesn't want to build a shorty MH or MV because there are a ton of much cheaper restricted similar guns that already exist, the AR15 and AR10/SR25/DPMS GII etc... so it wouldn't be viable for them to offer a bare bones basic 3000 dollar rifle that you could have ALL the bells and whistles on an AR15 for that price or less. But their reasons are their own, and fear of the RCMP has definitely limited a lot of options on things.

Now as far as the MDR is concerned, one importer could get one rifle imported as a restricted FRT and then once the rifle is 'restricted by barrel length' then a sub entry can be made with as much as a verifiers report or at the minimum send a rifle in (and like the Modern Varminter) it's a couple month process to get approved instead of 2-3 years. There would be no need to get a barrel change done or anything, just get the ball rolling!

As much as we hate how the RCMP treat us, the guidelines in the firearms act ARE clear. If a gun is classified as restricted by barrel length only, then the RCMP are legally required to have a non-restricted FRT for a proper barrel length. The Swiss Arms carbines are a perfect example of this, or the ACR, or the USC45 carbine or the Beretta CX4 Storm. ALL of those are restricted guns that came in and got non-restricted FRT's made with 18.5"+ barrels on them. Once the FRT exists, then Desert Tech makes the 18.75" variants and a new FRT is made. Done!

Or we can wait 2 years for Desert tech to get the long barrel versions done, then wait for 2 or 3 years for the RCMP to verify it... instead of getting one ASAP and cutting 2-3 years out of that process!

I'm not going to get into the swiss arms debate, but the ONLY reason the RCMP did what they did is because of one vendor being spiteful. The RCMP warned them not to push, and they still did. Even the RCMP wanted to sweep it under the rug....
 
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I'm not going to get into the swiss arms debate, but the ONLY reason the RCMP did what they did is because of one vendor being spiteful. The RCMP warned them not to push, and they still did. Even the RCMP wanted to sweep it under the rug....

A vendor being spiteful? And who might that be.
 
A vendor being spiteful? And who might that be.

The shooting edge. Do a google search. Also i dont know if calgary shooting center still have their article of the swiss debacle still up. If they do that have a relatively complete account of what happened. Hence why I will never shop at the shooting edge. Despite me never owning a swiss.
 
The shooting edge. Do a google search. Also i dont know if calgary shooting center still have their article of the swiss debacle still up. If they do that have a relatively complete account of what happened. Hence why I will never shop at the shooting edge. Despite me never owning a swiss.

FFS f:P: some people man.

Guess where I'm never shopping. Hope he goes bankrupt.
 
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Lets not junk up my thread, thanks.

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So the presale really does no good for a Canadian as even if we bought one we could not bring it into Canada? 8(

I appreciate beauty from afar but .... I think the RCMP should be a dollar threshold on reviewing guns. For example, if the semi auto is over $4000 that should trigger an RCMP auto classification of restricted based on it being collectible. I'm guessing there are way less expensive illegal guns?
 
Any chance desert tech could make one 18.6 barreled version just writing can start the frt process. Chances are by the time the rcmp get done with it they might be ready to go with the Canadian version.
 
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