Hello pounder,
I would like you to be right in this case, but I suspect that if you are shooting wolves over gut pile, you are NOT trapping, are you?
Cheers,
Dan
Night time predator hunting. Who do we have to convince?
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Hello pounder,
I would like you to be right in this case, but I suspect that if you are shooting wolves over gut pile, you are NOT trapping, are you?
Cheers,
Dan
Objective of the anti gun government is not more success for hunters!
It is collecting highest fees possible for numerous permits and tags, as onerous rules and regulations as possible, and to minimize your opportunities for successful hunt.
Porkchopsandwhich
CGN Regular
I looked into this before for Manitoba, It doesn't count if your not hunting under the wild life act.
Well I've been a member of the OFAH for close to 30 years. Let's get some signatures and forward it. I know its a FUDD club buts its the only organization that had ins with the ministry.
Should be no different than changing Sunday hunting laws.
bearkilr
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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The only time I could see where it would be permitted is if it's in protection of personal property, like livestock, but then I doubt baiting or e-callers are something you'd want to be using. In other words, there's a wolf in your yard trying to get at your dog/cattle/sheep/horse etc.
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Enough idiots out there in day light.
Grizz
True Dat! I am all for it. There would be issues though. Not all hunters are sportsmen. I'm sure out here there will be guys driving around people's fields at night with off-road lights on and the like. While many people could moderate themselves the few that don't will create havoc.
As I mentioned in a previous post in my area supressors would be necessary. Plenty of small farms. Would not want to wake people up at night.
hunting of a night with a suppressor would be nice i agree.
here is a link to the code of practice we had to adhere to
http://basc.org.uk/cop/lamping/
I'm not against night hunting for predators in Ontario, I just think it would be a very hard, very difficult uphill battle with our left-leaning population.
The best bet, would be as suggested, to get OFAH on board. Love them or hate them they are really the only "organized lobby for hunters" in Ontario that has even a bit of influence on government here.
If they could 1) identify predators as an issue to be dealt with - and this would have to be hard, scientific data collected over quite a few years 2) wrap it up in their "contributing to the hunting heritage" somehow 3) show the government that they could pull in some licence or tourist hunter dollars (or both) and 4) go in with a plan like they did with Turkey's initially or Elk (although I don't think OFAH had a great deal to do with the Elk, at least intially).
Show the government that they (OFAH) are ready, willing and able to run "night time hunter safety training" (like the turkey course) that would be mandatory (again like the turkey course, so you would have a little "N" on your licence beside your "T" for turkey) and write up a pile of (suggested) regulations - times, areas, animals, limits, caliber sizes etc.
And then maybe get some rural MPP's to push it as well - those who have farmers that are losing calves or sheep to Yotes.
If you could do all that then "maybe" two or three governments down the road from now (since even regulation changes such as this often take years - the 2015 moose changes were proposed by the MNR grand poobah's some 8 years before they came into effect - so even when "insiders" propose, it grinds slowly forward - the Moose Policy as adopted in 2015 was "published" in 2009) you might see a pilot season in a few select WMU's.
So yes, I'm all for increased hunting opportunities, I just don't know if I would live long enough to see it.
Jaded yes, but supportive of the idea 100%.
You just can't go in with feet stomping about right to hunt or it should be allowed because Bubba in North Dakota can do it. There would need to be a "non-hunting" reason and some economic benefit (even if that is the government saving money on predator control by letting you do it) so that they could sell it to the masses who already would rather live with Rabid Coons in Hamilton then have them shot.
The best bet, would be as suggested, to get OFAH on board. Love them or hate them they are really the only "organized lobby for hunters" in Ontario that has even a bit of influence on government here.
If they could 1) identify predators as an issue to be dealt with - and this would have to be hard, scientific data collected over quite a few years 2) wrap it up in their "contributing to the hunting heritage" somehow 3) show the government that they could pull in some licence or tourist hunter dollars (or both) and 4) go in with a plan like they did with Turkey's initially or Elk (although I don't think OFAH had a great deal to do with the Elk, at least intially).
Show the government that they (OFAH) are ready, willing and able to run "night time hunter safety training" (like the turkey course) that would be mandatory (again like the turkey course, so you would have a little "N" on your licence beside your "T" for turkey) and write up a pile of (suggested) regulations - times, areas, animals, limits, caliber sizes etc.
And then maybe get some rural MPP's to push it as well - those who have farmers that are losing calves or sheep to Yotes.
If you could do all that then "maybe" two or three governments down the road from now (since even regulation changes such as this often take years - the 2015 moose changes were proposed by the MNR grand poobah's some 8 years before they came into effect - so even when "insiders" propose, it grinds slowly forward - the Moose Policy as adopted in 2015 was "published" in 2009) you might see a pilot season in a few select WMU's.
So yes, I'm all for increased hunting opportunities, I just don't know if I would live long enough to see it.
Jaded yes, but supportive of the idea 100%.
You just can't go in with feet stomping about right to hunt or it should be allowed because Bubba in North Dakota can do it. There would need to be a "non-hunting" reason and some economic benefit (even if that is the government saving money on predator control by letting you do it) so that they could sell it to the masses who already would rather live with Rabid Coons in Hamilton then have them shot.
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