So you've killed a bear, wolf or coyote ...now what?

Bears vary a lot, depending on what they are eating. Even then, I've skinned grizzlies on salmon that would make a raven puke, yet the last one didn't. Blacks vary just as much. The ones we shoot are usually eating oats, but that doesn't change that someone else's carrion, fish or garbage bear is disgusting. View points on bears in general range from valued and scarce game animal to "the only good bear is a dead bear" and they are routinely shot on sight. The line seems to occur directly between those that hope to get a bear someday, and those that actually have to live with them.

I transplanted a black bear carcass once to a non-bear area to see what would happen. Coyotes wouldn't even come near it, but they had no trouble gnawing on them in areas where they knew what one was; when they could beat the bears to it. Some bears will eat others and some won't. If the coyotes and bears can't even agree whether bears are edible why should people be any different?
 
My taste buds don't savor the idea of eating bear.
I'm almost certain I got quite sick on that meat when I was carousing me teens.
Dad had one down in the freezer and after that, I refused to eat the bruin.
Then my moose hunting buddies wife canned a bunch of meat. One big jar
was kept secret until after I had digested the contents. Hmmm hmmm good.
Done in a stew style. Made a great hungry man's sammich.
Found out later it was an orchard blackie.
Another moose hunting trip one of the buddies knocked down a young black bear.
They skinned it out for the hide and brought the meat back to camp.
They did up a roast and when I got back to camp a big overloaded plate of vittles
was passed my way.
It was very good. Whut's dizz, asked I?
Well my one buddy snickered..............okay, whom shawt the bear?

So I guess I'm sitting on the fence with these picknick basket thieves.
 
Jr got a young black bear quite a few years ago. We tried, but just couldn't eat it. Sent it in for pepperettes, was easier to eat then, but we gave most of it away. Most of the guys at work seemed to like it as pepperettes, so they had treats there every day for quite some time. One mechanic liked it so much he asked if he could a bunch home.
 
medvedqc said:
not here ....

Waste of Meat or Fur
It is unlawful to waste the meat from a game bird, small game animal or big game
animal, other than a bear, wolf, coyote, wolverine or furbearing animal. If a small
game animal or game bird is delivered to a taxidermist to be mounted, the waste
of meat provisions of the
Wildlife Act
do not apply.
Meat is considered to be wasted when part of an animal that is reasonably suitable
for human consumption is:
X
X
fed to dogs or other domestic animals,
X
X
abandoned,
X
X
destroyed or allowed to spoil,
X
X
used for bait, or
X
X
left in the field without being properly dressed and cared for to prevent
the meat from being scavenged or spoiled.
Meat includes the neck and rib meat, the two front quarters down to the lower leg joint,
the two hind quarters down to the hock, the backstraps and the tenderloins. It does not
include the head, hide or viscera.
Successful hunters are required to take all of the meat from the kill site to the departure
point (the place where it will be transported from the field) before taking the horns or
antlers of the animal to that point. If all the meat is to be transported at once, horns
or antlers may be taken with that meat, or horns or antlers may be taken with the last
load of meat.
Any meat left behind once the horns or antlers are removed from
the kill site is considered abandoned.
It is unlawful to allow the hide or pelt of a bear, coyote, wolverine or wolf to be wasted.

General Regulations


Conservation Officers continue to find evidence of meat
wastage when conducting field inspections.
Each year charges are laid for this offence and, on conviction, Yukon courts
have imposed significant penalties on offenders. The maximum penalty for
a first offence is $50,000 and/or imprisonment for up to 12 months.

h t t p ://www.env.gov.yk.ca/hunting-fishing-trapping/documents/hunting_regs_15-16.pdf

see page 24.
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could you please bold the part that says it has to be consumed by humans?
like I said, that would be unenforceable.
 
legi0n said:
could you please bold the part that says it has to be consumed by humans?
like I said, that would be unenforceable.
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It's not uninforceable..... It's just not easily enforced......

Sometimes common sense wins..... Unfortunately, common sense really isn't that common.... Which is why more rules are created.....
 
legi0n said:
could you please bold the part that says it has to be consumed by humans?
like I said, that would be unenforceable.
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Waste of Meat or Fur
It is unlawful to waste the meat from a game bird, small game animal or big game
animal, other than a bear, wolf, coyote, wolverine or furbearing animal. If a small
game animal or game bird is delivered to a taxidermist to be mounted, the waste
of meat provisions of the
Wildlife Act
do not apply.
Meat is considered to be wasted when part of an animal that is reasonably suitable
for human consumption is:
X
X
fed to dogs or other domestic animals,
X
X
abandoned,
X
X
destroyed or allowed to spoil,
X
X
used for bait, or
X
X
left in the field without being properly dressed and cared for to prevent
the meat from being scavenged or spoiled.
Meat includes the neck and rib meat, the two front quarters down to the lower leg joint,
the two hind quarters down to the hock, the backstraps and the tenderloins. It does not
include the head, hide or viscera.
Successful hunters are required to take all of the meat from the kill site to the departure
point (the place where it will be transported from the field) before taking the horns or
antlers of the animal to that point. If all the meat is to be transported at once, horns
or antlers may be taken with that meat, or horns or antlers may be taken with the last
load of meat.
Any meat left behind once the horns or antlers are removed from
the kill site is considered abandoned.
It is unlawful to allow the hide or pelt of a bear, coyote, wolverine or wolf to be wasted.

General Regulations


Conservation Officers continue to find evidence of meat
wastage when conducting field inspections.
Each year charges are laid for this offence and, on conviction, Yukon courts
have imposed significant penalties on offenders. The maximum penalty for
a first offence is $50,000 and/or imprisonment for up to 12 months.

h t t p ://www.env.gov.yk.ca/hunting-fishing-trapping/documents/hunting_regs_15-16.pdf

see page 24.
 
Bearklr..... Unfortunately "unenforceable" means they will bring it home and nobody can trace it after that.......

But I wager you know that......

Sad that some waste perfectly good meat...... I feel I owe my prey better when they are edible.....
 
bearkilr said:
Meat is considered to be wasted when part of an animal that is reasonably suitable
for human consumption is:
X
X
fed to dogs or other domestic animals,
X
X
abandoned,
X
X
destroyed or allowed to spoil,
X
X
used for bait, or
X
X
left in the field without being properly dressed and cared for to prevent
the meat from being scavenged or spoiled.
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There's still room to intentionally feed it to fish, wild birds or animals, but that's hair splitting.
We all know what the intent of the regs is.
BC regs seem more sensible to me from the practical enforcement point of view.

I for one don't shoot the bear if it's not small enough to fit in my tiny freezer.
But if it fits, I eats :)
 
Superbrad said:
Bearklr..... Unfortunately "unenforceable" means they will bring it home and nobody can trace it after that.......

But I wager you know that......

Sad that some waste perfectly good meat...... I feel I owe my prey better when they are edible.....
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The Yukon regs are actually the first one's I've seen that specify what is defined as "waste".
I'd assume the definition of "waste" in other provinces is open to interpretation by CO's and courts, not always a good thing. It could mean it's legal to feed it to your dogs or conversely you could be charged for having freezer burned roasts.
 
Once upon a time game in BC was managed on the basis of keeping the species available for hunters and rules were based on perpetration of the species.
Thus, when you legally killed a game animal, where one a year was allowed, you were done for that year with shooting any more. But the game department couldn't care less with what you did with the carcass. It was dead, thus what happened to the carcass had absolutely nothing to do with further propagating of the species.
Of course, the over whelming majority of hunters shot the game for the meat, but it did give a legal opening, if for some reason the individual hunter didn't want the meat.
It was the strong movement of the anti hunting group that was (is) responsible for many of our hunting rules. That group, led by the extremely well financed PETA organization, would like to see nothing better than the outlawing of all hunting.
Thus, to make hunting a bit more palatable for the anti hunters, the game rules were changed to where all edible meat had to be taken home.
Bear meat at the time was not included in edible wild meat. But the anti's made a strong pitch to outlaw bear hunting, based on the rules of the day where it was, or could be, considered trophy hunting. So, a cave in to the anti's and make it law to bring the meat home.
 
H4831 said:
Once upon a time game in BC was managed on the basis of keeping the species available for hunters and rules were based on perpetration of the species.
Thus, when you legally killed a game animal, where one a year was allowed, you were done for that year with shooting any more. But the game department couldn't care less with what you did with the carcass. It was dead, thus what happened to the carcass had absolutely nothing to do with further propagating of the species.
Of course, the over whelming majority of hunters shot the game for the meat, but it did give a legal opening, if for some reason the individual hunter didn't want the meat.
It was the strong movement of the anti hunting group that was (is) responsible for many of our hunting rules. That group, led by the extremely well financed PETA organization, would like to see nothing better than the outlawing of all hunting.
Thus, to make hunting a bit more palatable for the anti hunters, the game rules were changed to where all edible meat had to be taken home.
Bear meat at the time was not included in edible wild meat. But the anti's made a strong pitch to outlaw bear hunting, based on the rules of the day where it was, or could be, considered trophy hunting. So, a cave in to the anti's and make it law to bring the meat home.
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I do get what you are saying but this law IMO is a good one.
 
fratri said:
I do get what you are saying but this law IMO is a good one.
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That's a slippery slope. Bear is still not widely regarded as a "game meat", as evidenced by varying laws between provinces.
Appeasing the anti's with feel good legislation isn't a good idea. If killing one for the hide isn't a good enough reason to have a season, which animal is next? Will beaver, coyote, and muskrat be on the menu next? How about gophers and prairie dogs?
 
bearkilr said:
That's a slippery slope. Bear is still not widely regarded as a "game meat", as evidenced by varying laws between provinces.
Appeasing the anti's with feel good legislation isn't a good idea. If killing one for the hide isn't a good enough reason to have a season, which animal is next? Will beaver, coyote, and muskrat be on the menu next? How about gophers and prairie dogs?
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Interesting concept.....

Would you condone someone shooting a moose for the hide and antlers?.....

Don't get me wrong, not challenging you.... I hunt ducks and geese.... I hate eating ducks and geese.... But I have many I can give the meat to that love it..... So Win win IMOP....

Everyone's palette is different no doubt...... But surely we can all take the time to make the effort to find someone that would take the meat of an edible game species (non varmint)..... Heck, right here on CGN we see many from all areas that eat bear and some even consider it the "forty creek" of game meat....... Yet I have still never seen an ad in the EE for free game meat.......
 
Superbrad said:
Interesting concept.....

Would you condone someone shooting a moose for the hide and antlers?.....

Don't get me wrong, not challenging you.... I hunt ducks and geese.... I hate eating ducks and geese.... But I have many I can give the meat to that love it..... So Win win IMOP....

Everyone's palette is different no doubt...... But surely we can all take the time to make the effort to find someone that would take the meat of an edible game species (non varmint)..... Heck, right here on CGN we see many from all areas that eat bear and some even consider it the "forty creek" of game meat....... Yet I have still never seen an ad in the EE for free game meat.......
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A moose has always been considered table fare.
CGN is unique in its unconditional love for bear meat.......along with Savage being the best rifle and the 9.3x62 being the best calibre.
Those three topics seem to be akin to debating health care with socialists on rabble.ca :)
 
bearkilr said:
A moose has always been considered table fare.
CGN is unique in its unconditional love for bear meat.......along with Savage being the best rifle and the 9.3x62 being the best calibre.
Those three topics seem to be akin to debating health care with socialists on rabble.ca :)
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Agreed on all points...... There are many in my camp that don't eat bear....and a few that don't eat venison..... Or anything "wild" for that matter..... Including grouse etc.... Most because they don't cook, and their wives refuse to cook or eat the meat..... I am more than happy to eat their share.... As they donate it to the gang.....

I try to keep salt and fat out of my diet, but I grew up on spam and eggs.... I find spam almost inedible now... I grew up hunting with dad and our lunch was clarke's Irish stew on the woodstove with a healthy slice of bread and butter...... Now when I cook it, I equate the meat to dog food level......

It's all in perspective I guess, but for those of us that don't want to eat what they shoot, there must be an outlet for the meat somewhere...... As many visit soup kitchens and shelters.....

What better defence against the antis than delivering clean, freshly harvested meat from the wild to feed the huddled masses?....
 
bearkilr said:
A moose has always been considered table fare.
CGN is unique in its unconditional love for bear meat.......along with Savage being the best rifle and the 9.3x62 being the best calibre.
Those three topics seem to be akin to debating health care with socialists on rabble.ca :)
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Considered table fare by who? Us?..... Yep....

But the slippery slope slides both ways.....
 
So up here in Sudbury the local soup kitchen will take wild meat .... Conservation officers take poached game to them ..... I knew this guy he passed on about 7 years ago and he would tell me what he would eat at the kitchen!!!!!i just about pooped my pants when he told me ..... !!!! Dio cane!!!!!eh !!!
 
davide montini said:
So up here in Sudbury the local soup kitchen will take wild meat .... Conservation officers take poached game to them ..... I knew this guy he passed on about 7 years ago and he would tell me what he would eat at the kitchen!!!!!i just about pooped my pants when he told me ..... !!!! Dio cane!!!!!eh !!!
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Perfect solution.... Our locals won't...... It's a damn shame...
 
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