Akkar Churchill 206 Orcap - High Select Walnut Oil Finish 12ga

plinker 777 said:
Are there questionable manufacturing practices in Turkey? Or is there a reason why you said this? (sincere question)
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For the price you're paying, their manufacturing practices and the quality of the firearm you're getting is nothing short of implacable. If this gun was made anywhere else, barring China which could not produce anything of the same level quality, the price would be 5 or 10 folds. I mean look at that thing, it's a thing of beauty.

I lived in Turkey for 4 years and I even speak the language.

My reasons are purely ethical/political.
 
^ That's kinda what I thought. I've never been to Turkey, but we're not taking about some backwater, primitive savages with stoneage technologies (putting religion aside). I see jeweled polishing, I see well fit, wonderful finish...the only thing I can't tell from looking at the shotgun is quality. Is this a polished turd, or a tool that points and swings as it should that will give years of uninterrupted enjoyment without breaking down?

I also need to know who to give my money to and how much?:)
 
plinker 777 said:
^ That's kinda what I thought. I've never been to Turkey, but we're not taking about some backwater, primitive savages with stoneage technologies (putting religion aside). I see jeweled polishing, I see well fit, wonderful finish...the only thing I can't tell from looking at the shotgun is quality. Is this a polished turd, or a tool that points and swings as it should that will give years of uninterrupted enjoyment without breaking down?

I also need to know who to give my money to and how much?:)
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Do not worry about the quality, if it's good for NATO, it's good for us.
 
98/29 said:
For the price you're paying, their manufacturing practices and the quality of the firearm you're getting is nothing short of implacable. If this gun was made anywhere else, barring China which could not produce anything of the same level quality, the price would be 5 or 10 folds. I mean look at that thing, it's a thing of beauty.

I lived in Turkey for 4 years and I even speak the language.

My reasons are purely ethical/political.
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When you pay five or 10 fold for an Italian gun you can expect to shoot it for years and tens of thousands of rounds. Only time will tell if the guns made in Turkey will do the same. I would like to see them make a $3000 O/U. I would give that one a try.
 
Pretty it is. The color case hardening and CNC (or laser) engraving is very nice. However..... Have a very close look at the photos and you will see that the wood to metal fit should place this shotgun in the mid-range price wise. I have a Savage 521 that has better wood to metal fit. Regardless who makes a gun, my daddy used to say, always look at the wood to metal and the metal to metal fit. BTW, my Savage 521 was made in Turkey.
 
the_tracker said:
Pretty it is. The color case hardening and CNC (or laser) engraving is very nice. However..... Have a very close look at the photos and you will see that the wood to metal fit should place this shotgun in the mid-range price wise. I have a Savage 521 that has better wood to metal fit. Regardless who makes a gun, my daddy used to say, always look at the wood to metal and the metal to metal fit. BTW, my Savage 521 was made in Turkey.
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What's the mid-range price for a nice over under....... $1000.00? More?

I see the slightly proud fit you are referring to but it's hardly a Norinco..... :)
 
What's the Mammut go for?


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