HK 416 wow!!
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The Old MR is a more accurate rifle with a wider variety of ammo.
The new MR is a noticeably less accurate than the old MR with non-match ammo, but it shoots averagely better than the 416 by a 1/4 MOA. 416 behaves like the Colt canada barrels I have tested. It shoots fanatically with some ammo but behaves like shotguns with others. Coincidentally, they tend to like the same ammo. You best bet is 77gr smk that is universally liked. The new chromelined MR I tested is a 1.5MOA gun at 200m with a 10 round group using 77gr smk.
In general, the MR performs better with commonly and commercially available SS109 type ammo in Canada. HK416 and Colt Canada do not like ( certain logs of ) some of the commercially and commonly available SS109 ammo at all.. I think there are differences in the chambering between the MR and the 416. The 416 chambering was made to enhance OTB performance.
In the past, HK would have to make different barrel blanks for the MR, because they need to be of the correct size off the forger. The new MR probably uses the same barrel blank as the HK 416, that is oversized to allow the addition of chrome-plating. That may explain why the performance of the new MR is closer to the 416 in accuracy.
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The link that I was referring to is ... http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/09/08/ar-endurance-findings-at-a-rental-range/
I do like the HK416/HK417 a lot, and at one point I almost got the MR762. Also, I do own few HK products which I like a lot. My biggest issue with HK is not the price (I do not mind paying for quality) but the part availability and support is terrible for the price you pay. Also, you pay for the HK416 twice as much money comparing to MR556, and that is not just for a fancy barrel but also for the extensive QA/Testing. Currently I am looking for a semi auto rifle and my short list is Desert Tech MDR or FB MSBS or HK416 Civ if I can find one. If the parts availability and support was better I would consider MR variant otherwise I do not want to take my chances for the money you pay.
Desert Tech MRD and FF MSBS? If you are going to buy a rifle in 2019. MSBS is not even going to be made in 2017 for civies, even if they decide it may have a future this year.
MR223A3 is in stock, and you can just walk into a gunshop and buy one.
MR223A3 is in stock, and you can just walk into a gunshop and buy one.
I am still trying to get a match trigger for my HK USP and I did not get far with that. So I am very put off with the HK for now. And if the part availability changes in the near future I would also consider waiting for the HH243. As for Desert Tech MDR it will be available in US in April this year, there is a high chance that it might be NR, and for 4K I will have it in two calibers (5.56 and 7.62). So no rush on my end.
x3m,
I think you are missing the point, the HK416 is not quality controlled any better than the MR series of rifles. The opposite is actually true.
HK's often do not require parts for a very long time. The new HK Canadian Distributor should be getting on with some of the parts and accessories people want for these guns.
Match Triggers and barrels are available and just need to be ordered. My Contact in HK Germany advises that MR 223 barrels are available for shipping and just simply need to be
ordered by the distributor. This is the same for match trigger parts kits as well.
The original HK MR 223's barrels were actually chambered in .223 Rem and not 5.56mm. All the 416 barrels were chambered in 5.56mm. Not sure about the new MR 223's with chrome-lined barrels.
Rich
I think you are missing the point, the HK416 is not quality controlled any better than the MR series of rifles. The opposite is actually true.
HK's often do not require parts for a very long time. The new HK Canadian Distributor should be getting on with some of the parts and accessories people want for these guns.
Match Triggers and barrels are available and just need to be ordered. My Contact in HK Germany advises that MR 223 barrels are available for shipping and just simply need to be
ordered by the distributor. This is the same for match trigger parts kits as well.
The original HK MR 223's barrels were actually chambered in .223 Rem and not 5.56mm. All the 416 barrels were chambered in 5.56mm. Not sure about the new MR 223's with chrome-lined barrels.
Rich
If you could point me in the right direction on who to contact to order the Match Trigger for the USP I would be very grateful. I did contact few dealers last year and wrote a post with the question on where to get them but so far I had no luck.
Thanks,
I own a MR223 and its a great firearm. I prefer it over the KAC sr15 mod 2. They are both extremely accurate but I find the MR223 more bulky and heavier, so less jump when shooting in the sitting/prone. The KAC is really light and jumps more then I expected. Both at the same price point now anyways. Might sell mine soon and move to a A3 model or the mr308g28.
