Scope bit twice today:) what scope has best eye relief?
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I now think the scope bite was from having to lean over, because my bipod was to low. I have one more notch in my base and this would give me a good cheek weld with a scope that has 3 1/2 to 4 relief. As long as having to move it all at the max rearward position will cause no issues. Then I'm good to go. Thanks every one.
it was only -2 , I was only wearing my T-Shirt
That's cuz you have your tuque.....
..... Just saying a bit of a rearward scope mount is fine ....... My vortex on the scout has 4 inches of eye relief and I was able to mount the scope more forward to balance the weight...... That being said, the scout has spacers to adjust lop.....
LOL, thanks that makes me feel better. I'm planning on dropping this in Cadex , with and adjustable stock .That's cuz you have your tuque.....
I'd guess its your holding technique as well, I was once bitten by a scope in my very early days, it was all me and had nothing to do with the scope or setup.
Make sure the scope is mounted properly, and you can pull the gun up quick and get a nice clear picture while looking through it right away. If you can't see through it clearly without moving your head back and forth, something isn't right.
Make sure the scope is mounted properly, and you can pull the gun up quick and get a nice clear picture while looking through it right away. If you can't see through it clearly without moving your head back and forth, something isn't right.
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I got bit twice and felt the scope come pretty close , quite a few times . I have a cheap bushnell mounted on a 7mm and had about 75 test loads to get done. I'm in the market for a new scope and clarity was # 1 on my list with the budget I have.($1000 ish). Now eye relief is important to me also
Now you know why I suggest Sightron often. Even at high mag, very long eye relief.
Bummer on the scope rash... look for specs with at least 3 1/2" eye relief.... 4" is better still.
Jerry
quick question on your body position.
Are you/your shoulders "squared" behind the rifle or is your upper body at an angle to the rifle? I have seen that cause the butt to actually slide back along the shoulder and bite the shooters forehead.
even with the short eye relief in the second pix, if you're squared behind the rifle, your shoulder is not going to allow the rifle to come back any further.
Are you/your shoulders "squared" behind the rifle or is your upper body at an angle to the rifle? I have seen that cause the butt to actually slide back along the shoulder and bite the shooters forehead.
even with the short eye relief in the second pix, if you're squared behind the rifle, your shoulder is not going to allow the rifle to come back any further.
The stock is far too long for you - you are right - leaning into the scope brings your forehead down so you are looking up into the lens. Pull the butt plate off and see if it feels slightly better - then wrap some tape around the stock and use the chopsaw to cut at least half an inch - maybe ¾ " off. Many six foot men do not have shoulders wide enough for factory guns - especially with hunting clothes on.
Yes I was sitting down and the gun was a bit low on the bench. I was leaning over . My buddy was watching me tonight and as I leaned over, to aim, the left side of my forehead would be about an 1 1/2 to 2 inches from the scope.so I'll try with a higher bipod and 2 bags for the back. Maybe a lower stool.
There is another thing that happens when the gun goes off - not only does your shoulder go back, but your head is on the other end of your shoulder "lever" - so it goes forward and down - as the scope goes up.
I am six foot but don't have lumberjack shoulders so I cut all of my stocks off - it just feels so good to have a rifle come up and be right without reaching to see - although I do set my scope forward enough that I get a little fuzz on the edge if I back up at all. Like someone mentioned, if the stock is long, it will hurt - it should not be on your shoulder, but on the muscle which comes up from your chest to your arm.
If you get into shooting position and swing your (maybe imaginary) gun to the right or push your trigger hand forward, you can feel with your other hand that the beef behind the butt goes away. Also, pull your gun rather hard into your shoulder like you learned and the weight of the shoulder is added to the gun so recoil is lessened. If you are doing benchrest with your bipod set so you can put a fist under the butt, curl the top two fingers in between the butt and your shoulder meat and the weight of the other fore arm is added to the gun also. Use the fist under the butt to set elevation by squeezing the fist tighter.
Leastaways that's what I do.
I am six foot but don't have lumberjack shoulders so I cut all of my stocks off - it just feels so good to have a rifle come up and be right without reaching to see - although I do set my scope forward enough that I get a little fuzz on the edge if I back up at all. Like someone mentioned, if the stock is long, it will hurt - it should not be on your shoulder, but on the muscle which comes up from your chest to your arm.
If you get into shooting position and swing your (maybe imaginary) gun to the right or push your trigger hand forward, you can feel with your other hand that the beef behind the butt goes away. Also, pull your gun rather hard into your shoulder like you learned and the weight of the shoulder is added to the gun so recoil is lessened. If you are doing benchrest with your bipod set so you can put a fist under the butt, curl the top two fingers in between the butt and your shoulder meat and the weight of the other fore arm is added to the gun also. Use the fist under the butt to set elevation by squeezing the fist tighter.
Leastaways that's what I do.
To begin with, when you consider a scope eliminate all those like Swarovski and Zeiss which have too little eye relief in general. Some of the Bushnells are in the same pot too. I know some people figure 3 to 3.5 inches of eye relief is fine for them, but for less experienced shooters or those who have not had the benefit of having been shown proper technique it is an issue and I have seen too many people get kissed hard. I prefer 4 inches of eye relief and yet used to shoot rifles on the job that were not my own that had poor eye relief and this made the kind of shooting were were doing a lot more difficult.
Then look to a decent scope that is known to track well and make sure you know how to mount it for optimal eye relief or have someone fit it for you.
Next, learn shooting technique that will minimize the possibility of getting kissed by your new scope.
Then look to a decent scope that is known to track well and make sure you know how to mount it for optimal eye relief or have someone fit it for you.
Next, learn shooting technique that will minimize the possibility of getting kissed by your new scope.
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My thoughts:
1. If you continued to shoot and got a sub MOA group after getting kissed, you're mental toughness is better than mine!!
2. Something absolutely ain't right with how that scope is mounted.
3. Something ain't right if this thing is biting you. I can shoot my .338LM with my 12-50 dialled up to 40-50 and not get kissed.
4. I'm a long armed 6'1" and I have to add LOP to all of my rifles, including my T3's. A slip on Pachmayr decelerator is all I use. I couldn't believe how it shorted out my cheek weld issues. Might be worth a try. You could always return it. You could try an add on cheek rest as well and see what it does for you. I didn't need that on my T3, but I sure did on my precision guns.
Eye relief and fit is very different from standing to bench to prone. I decide what that rifle is to be used for, and mount the scope accordingly.
5. You're a big man for admitting what happened and seeking help on a forum where most first criticize, then mock, then MAYBE help.... everyone was very civil!!!
6. Get you finger off the trigger!!! (In your pics)
7. Good toque, eh?
Hahahahahahahha - JK.
-J.
1. If you continued to shoot and got a sub MOA group after getting kissed, you're mental toughness is better than mine!!
2. Something absolutely ain't right with how that scope is mounted.
3. Something ain't right if this thing is biting you. I can shoot my .338LM with my 12-50 dialled up to 40-50 and not get kissed.
4. I'm a long armed 6'1" and I have to add LOP to all of my rifles, including my T3's. A slip on Pachmayr decelerator is all I use. I couldn't believe how it shorted out my cheek weld issues. Might be worth a try. You could always return it. You could try an add on cheek rest as well and see what it does for you. I didn't need that on my T3, but I sure did on my precision guns.
Eye relief and fit is very different from standing to bench to prone. I decide what that rifle is to be used for, and mount the scope accordingly.
5. You're a big man for admitting what happened and seeking help on a forum where most first criticize, then mock, then MAYBE help.... everyone was very civil!!!
6. Get you finger off the trigger!!! (In your pics)
7. Good toque, eh?
Hahahahahahahha - JK.
-J.
I had a browning x bolt , 7mm, 3-9x40 bushnell legend and never got bit. I'm 5,11 195 lbs so I have no problem with the recoil or shouldering the gun . I fired off 80 rnds yesterday on a 2 hr sitting. The scope hit me twice and came close a few other times. I've tryed mounting different ways with different rings and nothing works. My conclusion is my technique . I think the short eye relief (3 inches ) and the fact that I had to lean over so much (at the bench) caused this. When I lean over to look through the scope my head slightly turns , bringing my closed eye much closer.,thereby causing my issues.
Thanks
. I have no bolt in the rifle if I make the stock longer wouldn't it bring me further from the scope? It's almost as if I need to shorten the stock. But that would be really uncomfortable as I have long arms.( think gorilla arms ). After getting hit twice , I swear I could watch that scope travel back, every shot. Out of 16 5 rnd groups, I got 2 that were sub MOA. And 2 of the best were with factory ammoTERMINATOR101CA
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Maybe I should put a pad on my forehead ?
I'm going to try and get the bipod higher, so I can sit with my back straight instead of having to hunch over. That should help.
Hah, there's an idea. You get knocked a couple more times in the head you might just turn into Hawkins .....
I mean become very smart of course.
I wonder if the bipod is making your rifle jump more. Do you get the same recoil travel shooting from a bag ?
