NEA Non-Restricted Rifle? "NEA25"

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All of this developing and designing, what ever happened to the KISS idea of making an AR180B with an aluminum receiver? At least 2 companies were said to be working on it and all we hear is crickets and the occasional cat fight. The work's already done for crying out loud, just build the darn thing with reasonable QC, price it at the same cost as an AR and retire to the exotic paradise of your choice.
 
Mister Donut said:
IF NEA convinces the RCMP to make the AR10 non restricted, wow.
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I can tell you they've been working hard at this AND I'll even say they've told other AR10 manufacturers to whom this change would apply, purely because they think it would be good for Canada and good for the industry.

I know they get a lot of hate here and I get why that is, but as I've often said, if people knew the whole story from the very beginning, I think they'd see NEA very differently. That's not to excuse some of the decisions they've made, and I know they know they did it to themselves.

But in addition to the really questionable things they've done, and in addition to the guns that had really ####ty parts in them, they've also done some great things and actually, although I know this will be a tough sell here, they've also built some great rifles. For instance, although I haven't confirmed this, I heard very recently that they won a competition for supplying the Australian federales with guns for their ERT units...and IIRC the competition for that included a bunch of heavyweights. I don't know what the competition looked like, so it's possible that it was a hundred rounds and "what's cheapest?" I have no idea.

But I don't think that all the outfits that sent guns would have bothered much if it was that simple.


Anyway I'm not saying they haven't built parts on a bench grinder, nor am I saying they didn't shill this place like crazy a few years back. But I am saying that a lot of people would be really shocked if they knew how rampant shilling is throughout this industry, and that NEA's return rate is comparable to lots of respected builders. So go ahead and slam them if you like, but try not to lose too much perspective on the whole deal.
 
enefgee said:
All of this developing and designing, what ever happened to the KISS idea of making an AR180B with an aluminum receiver? At least 2 companies were said to be working on it and all we hear is crickets and the occasional cat fight. The work's already done for crying out loud, just build the darn thing with reasonable QC, price it at the same cost as an AR and retire to the exotic paradise of your choice.
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IIRC at least one design was actually bought by NEA to put into production for this exact purpose...this was a couple of years ago so I'm getting hazy but I believe that they were warned not to by the lab as at the time there was a concern about it triggering a change of classification. Don't hold me to the details but I know they wanted to do it and paid for a design, and then put it all on hold.
 
Who can we bother on a consistent basis of updates? And would frequent calls to the RCMP regarding the ar10 classification accomplish anything?
 
misanthropist said:
IIRC at least one design was actually bought by NEA to put into production for this exact purpose...this was a couple of years ago so I'm getting hazy but I believe that they were warned not to by the lab as at the time there was a concern about it triggering a change of classification. Don't hold me to the details but I know they wanted to do it and paid for a design, and then put it all on hold.
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Great, the RCMP runs the Canadian firearms industry with intimidation - what's next, extortion?
 
fenceline said:
The rcmp recently alluded to the ar10 being not regulated like the ar15, when publishing their legal opinion on the akdal 1919 reclassification.

In short, they admit that the ar10, which predates the ar15, is not restricted by name like the ar15.

Nea has been pushing this angle apparently with the lab with this gun. Rumour has it they have a convincing arguement.

If the ar10 is recognized as any other rifle classification wise, why would any one by a proprietary rifle?

That rifle looks a lot like an ar10. If they copied anything, it would be that, not the MH. Especially given they have been designing this since before the MH became public knowledge.
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Kind of like the type 81 not classified as an ak or a dragunov but the evolution of the type 63 rifle
 
Canada Ammo said:
We have been selling NEA for over 4 months now and our rate for returns is 0.0066%
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For you to get that number you would have had to sell 15000 rifles, and get only one returned ... in four months.

Edit: unless you mean 0.0066/1 or 0.66%? 150 rifles for every 1 lemon?
 
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The nea 25 already has a restricted frt that cites the "ar15 is restricted by name". The frt entry has been around for some time. Not really a new gun.

If this rifle is also a nea 25 as the face book post infers... and nea is waiting for good news, the only possible good news avenue available is that the rcmp have decided that the ar10 is in fact a design that came before the ar15, and as such not a variant of the ar15 and not restricted by name.

This isn't about making a newly classified non restricted rifle. This is about arguing that an existing rifle isn't classified right.
 
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fenceline said:
The nea 25 already has a restricted frt that cites the "ar15 is restricted by name". The frt entry has been around for some time. Not really a new gun.

If this rifle is also a nea 25 as the face book post infers... and nea is waiting for good news, the only possible good news avenua available is that the rcmp have decided that the ar10 is in fact a design that came before the ar15, and as such not a variant of the ar15 and not restricted by name.

This isn't about making a newly classified non restricted rifle. This is about arguing that an existing rifle isn't classified right.
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Way to bust my bubble
 
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