Why does everyone give the axis a hard time?

What is really amazing to that this thread has gathered 241 responses over a 5 week period on a rifle that isn't worthy worth starting a thread on in the first place. That's not snobby, just plain fact.
 
mrgoat said:
What is really amazing to that this thread has gathered 241 responses over a 5 week period on a rifle that isn't worthy worth starting a thread on in the first place. That's not snobby, just plain fact.
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Yup. I sell lot of them, but would never buy one myself. Much better choices for the value oriented buyers out there.
 
heronfish said:
We have differing opinions on what worth is. In my estimation, it's a $250 gun, it's a used axis after all. Like fancy rims on a beater, the animal underneath is still lacking.

And like I said earlier, my wife owns one, it does he job for her. But let's not start comparing it to my gustafs that only cost me a little more on the used market.
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I'm only saying it is a good rifle for the price point, I've got nothing negative to say about the Axis and I like the one I have....Its an entry level rifle and a good entry level rifle. I"m not questioning or running down the merits of an old rifle that may or may not have issues with no warranty.

The Axis is a new rifle with warranty that will most likely shoot as well or better than your used gustafs and with average hunting use will last two life times.

I will most likely give the one I have to my Grandson next year when he starts shooting center fire rifles.

I know it will not fail him, I know that it is accurate, reliable and functional. I also know that when he is done with it, this very same Axis will be past down and used by grandson number two.

Now that to me is a bargain ....gotta like that :)
 
Hawk-I .... IMOP, you and Yorgi both hit the nail on the head.... It is what it is and you accept that......

As for me, I can't own one for what it is, so i choose accordingly, but can't tell you for sure my decisions would have been the same 20 years ago when my situation was different....

As for OP, you ask why savage axis gets knocked down.... It's because the majority in the forum cite gym as the second coming of Christ, instead of taking a practical view and stating what they really are....
 
Superbrad said:
Hawk-I .... IMOP, you and Yorgi both hit the nail on the head.... It is what it is and you accept that......

As for me, I can't own one for what it is, so i choose accordingly, but can't tell you for sure my decisions would have been the same 20 years ago when my situation was different....

As for OP, you ask why savage axis gets knocked down.... It's because the majority in the forum cite gym as the second coming of Christ, instead of taking a practical view and stating what they really are....
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See now thats the thing....what it really is, is a decent, reliable, accurate, functional, plain Jane no frills entry level gun with warranty. What it Isn't, is junk not worth owning....it has a viable and respected place within its price point as is evident by consumer sales.

My Axis was never fired with the factory stock or trigger, first thing I did was install a Boyds I got off the EE and clip the spring on the trigger. At this point I liked it enough to spend the extra money for a Timney.

If you haven't tried an Axis in a Boyds with a very good trigger you should....its really not a bad set up, and truthfully I rather like it. I'm not saying its the be all end all of the lower priced rifle world but I will say that it is a surprisingly better gun than I thought it would be.

Would I buy another one again....yes! :)
 
Hawk-I...... That is your choice...... And not one I would make, but that's up to you....

My personal feeling is that I have seen much better (IMOP) firearms go for less than you have into your axis and they don't have questionable features, like a plastic mag retainer..... But that is my view......
 
Yeah I think they are crap. I hate the accutrigger. I hate the ergonomics, the feed path the works. But....my bro is saying muleys in Sask with his so there ya go.
 
Well if one looks back. You can see the Rem 700 come out circa 1962. By 1964, the sales had swung so far to Remington that Winchester threw out their entire line of pre-64, wheterh that was the M70, M94, M88, M100, M12....etc. Not really sure when the timeline came in, but into this mix came Savage with the Model 110. The Savage Axis is basically a budget rifle from already cost cutting and budget rifle company.

Where i get to my point in this post is here. Galamb has posted that he sold more Axis than anything, almost no M700. We have a economic set of circumstances, just like in 1964....well a lot different.....but a Liberal government creates doubt which stifles investment in better rifles, the canadian peso makes even the bottom end manufacturers lines become $900 rifles. Conditions are right for the Savage Axis just like the Rem M700 and Savage 110 in 1964, pushing build quality and cost cutting to a new low. The race for the bottom.
 
hawk-i said:
Fair enough, we can agree to disagree on the merits of the Savage Axis.
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For sure..... I have no issue with the axis, as long as the owners don't write me off a snob, (not that I really care)....

Shooting sports need every gun owner they can garner, and if the axis gets someone into the shooting sports, I am all for it.....

That being said, people saying the axis is "all you need" and laughing at those that want better are not the Poole we want to attract to this sport.... They are the same people willing to sell out semi owners because they have "all they need"....

Guess I am old school, I am happy with what I have and can easily admit there were times in my life I wanted more, but couldn't afford it, but didn't want to be kept from the woods..... So I bought cheap and sold at a loss...... But I can honestly say, I never considered those who owned better snobs..... I also feel more can be had for less than the axis price, but that was a lesson learned hard for me as well.....
 
nowarningshot said:
Well if one looks back. You can see the Rem 700 come out circa 1962. By 1964, the sales had swung so far to Remington that Winchester threw out their entire line of pre-64, wheterh that was the M70, M94, M88, M100, M12....etc. Not really sure when the timeline came in, but into this mix came Savage with the Model 110. The Savage Axis is basically a budget rifle from already cost cutting and budget rifle company.

Where i get to my point in this post is here. Galamb has posted that he sold more Axis than anything, almost no M700. We have a economic set of circumstances, just like in 1964....well a lot different.....but a Liberal government creates doubt which stifles investment in better rifles, the canadian peso makes even the bottom end manufacturers lines become $900 rifles. Conditions are right for the Savage Axis just like the Rem M700 and Savage 110 in 1964, pushing build quality and cost cutting to a new low. The race for the bottom.
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This makes sense. Well said.
 
Wow! The axis is getting more publicity than it deserves, good or bad. As i stated earlier, I do have an axis and I like it for what it is but it does not deserve this much attention.
 
funny thing ... someone posts a question about the axis and what could happen is a decent conversation on how to mod the rifle or overcome a shortcoming or improve it .........

but instead it seems the same half dozen people come into the thread and take the equivalent to a huge steaming sh.t in the thread and start ranting and raving about every real and imagined flaw they can think of .......

if they put one percent of the effort they took to b.tch and moan , they would be able to solve things like world hunger .
 
burnt_servo said:
funny thing ... someone posts a question about the axis and what could happen is a decent conversation on how to mod the rifle or overcome a shortcoming or improve it .........

but instead it seems the same half dozen people come into the thread and take the equivalent to a huge steaming sh.t in the thread and start ranting and raving about every real and imagined flaw they can think of .......

if they put one percent of the effort they took to b.tch and moan , they would be able to solve things like world hunger .
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Maybe a thread about modding an Axis would draw some positive input. But a thread about why everyone seems to hate the Axis will draw out the negatives.

World hunger eh?........
 
Last year's deer was taken with an Axis in 243. The stock is flimsy and the safety mechanism is weak, but it got me some meat in the freezer. Plus, I don't care if take a spill, hit something with the rifle on the way down and break something - unlike the nice wooden stock on my all original 1960's 870 Wingmaster that cracked when it hit a tree stump.
 
They say " all publicity is good publicity · no such thing as bad publicity"
They might be right, with all this talk about the Axis, I might have to go get me one.
 
a new model AXIS II XP Hardwood

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