Calling Ruger RSM experts

When they released the RSM, the 404 Jeff was in the lineup.... At the time, federal was supposed to release a factory 404 load to support the rifle..... When the ammo never went to production Ruger decided to pull the 404 from the lineup, but not before an estimated 100 - 150 rifles were sent out and sold.....

They are out there, but rarer than hens teeth.....

Nice, thanks for the info! I bet those bad boys would fetch a good dollar.
 
Ruger has done a lot of strange, out of sequence, special order and "on demand" runs of firearms, particularly in the No.1 and M77 lines... Bill used to do a lot of favours for "buddies," and special interest groups.
 
I thought Id add some pics of some of my Rugers.
A family portrait of RSM's



I also like the Ruger 77 Mark2's but the 77 African Hawkeyes have a better LC6 trigger and are available from the factory in 375 or 416 Ruger. These are real great rifles, but maybe not as fancy as their predecessors.




An 416 rigby in an RSM
A 9.3x375 Ruger in a Mark 2 Stainless built off a canoe paddle 7 rem mag
A 9.3x62 in a African Hawkeye

Buckmastr, nice trio you have there for sure... If you get a chance, could I get a measurement of the distance from the outside of one scope ring to the outside of the other?..... I want go measure it against a couple of scopes I have to see if they will fit in the extended magnum action.....
 
Buckmastr, nice trio you have there for sure... If you get a chance, could I get a measurement of the distance from the outside of one scope ring to the outside of the other?..... I want go measure it against a couple of scopes I have to see if they will fit in the extended magnum action.....

Brad, I will measure for you when I get home this afternoon... remember that mounting distance is one thing, but you may have to shift rearward to make the eye relief work... so you may need a very long tube or the offset ring... I was able to make a VX-3 1.5-5X20 work with a 4BO in the front position and a regular 5B in the rear.

I will mount a couple different scopes and ring set-ups and post pictures.
 
Brad, I will measure for you when I get home this afternoon... remember that mounting distance is one thing, but you may have to shift rearward to make the eye relief work... so you may need a very long tube or the offset ring... I was able to make a VX-3 1.5-5X20 work with a 4BO in the front position and a regular 5B in the rear.

I will mount a couple different scopes and ring set-ups and post pictures.

Thanks, appreciate it....

Looking to see if I can squeeze a 2-7 x32 on it that has 4 inches of eye relief.... But get what you are saying as the objective bell likely won't provide much room for play (if it fits at all).... We shall see.... Straight tubes on DG rifles are all the rage with the kids nowadays anyways.... Lol
 
Thanks superbrad.
That scope won't go on there without some offset rings. I personally would jump up to a 3.5-10x40, which would mount with the rings supplied, before I went with a straight tube 1.5-5 or messed with offset rings.
 
Thanks superbrad.
That scope won't go on there without some offset rings. I personally would jump up to a 3.5-10x40, which would mount with the rings supplied, before I went with a straight tube 1.5-5 or messed with offset rings.

I actually like the straight tubes.... Have one on my Ruger Scout....

Have a nice Zeiss in 2-7 I was thinking of mounting, but there is no way in hell I am going to mess up the looks of this rifle with offset rings unless they are tastefully done ... Guess I will have to find another Ruger to mount underneath the Zeiss :)
 
I noticed a handful of RSMs at the Calgary gun show this weekend. Most were priced at 2k without a scope and then up from there depending on what was on top. All showed use of some sort or another, half had muzzle brakes, the rest had different recoil pads. None were factory minty.... A 375 was the best one iirc...
There was a nice clean but used m77 tang safety in a 458 wm, with weaver fixed scope there. I would have bought it but I hesitated and it went home with someone else...
 
I had a Leupold VX-3 1.75-6X32 with German #4 on this one... just barely fit for good eye relief.

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With the integral rib, you have to go up one size for objective clearance... that is the attraction of a straight tube scope on these... it allows lower mounting. When I get home I will mount a VX-3 1.5-5, VX-3 2.5-8 and VX-3 3.5-10 and take pictures of the mount set-ups that work.
 
I had a Leupold VX-3 1.75-6X32 with German #4 on this one... just barely fit for good eye relief.

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With the integral rib, you have to go up one size for objective clearance... that is the attraction of a straight tube scope on these... it allows lower mounting. When I get home I will mount a VX-3 1.5-5, VX-3 2.5-8 and VX-3 3.5-10 and take pictures of the mount set-ups that work.

Call me "picky", but I really like the look of that as opposed to a straight tube....
 
OK, here are some specs and photos;

1. I measured 5.447" to the outside of the regular rings.

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2. Mounting a VX-3 1.5-5X20mm scope with proper eye relief (for me) required the front ring to be positioned over and straddling the front lens, which I did not like.

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Much better with the 4BO offset ring in the forward position, but this then necessitates a 5B in the rear position, the straight tube scope is then higher than necessary, however it fit me perfectly for tube height... and is the same height to center as all of the other set-ups, which also require 4/5 ring heights.

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3. The VX-3 2.5-8X36mm scope mounting length is only 5.178."

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And so, to mount the 2.5-8 you must use a 4BO offset ring in the forward position, again necessitating the 5B in the rear position.

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4. The VX-3 3.5-10X40mm scope has a mounting length of 5.879".

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The 3.5-10 can be mounted in regular 4B and 5B rings and has a clearance of 1/32" of the objective bell above the integral rail... if this magnification works for you, it is a very clean and tight set-up.

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I had a Leupold VX-3 1.75-6X32 with German #4 on this one... just barely fit for good eye relief.

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With the integral rib, you have to go up one size for objective clearance... that is the attraction of a straight tube scope on these... it allows lower mounting. When I get home I will mount a VX-3 1.5-5, VX-3 2.5-8 and VX-3 3.5-10 and take pictures of the mount set-ups that work.

I should note that the VX-3 (VX-III) 1.75-6X32mm scope comes in two barrel (tube) lengths... the one here is the longer scope... be careful to ask what the mounting length is before purchasing, if you can't measure it personally.
 
Now that's detail!.... I measured the tube on my Zeiss and it is right on 6"..... So that gives me a little over half an inch of play with regular....

So it looks like the 4BO on the rear and 3B on the front would really screw proper eye relief..... No two people are built the same but the fact that you needed to move it backwards likely means I would be screwed if I moved it forwards......

Looks like I will have to try either 4BO forward and 5B on the rear of get a regular setup and take my chances?
 
Now that's detail!.... I measured the tube on my Zeiss and it is right on 6"..... So that gives me a little over half an inch of play with regular....

So it looks like the 4BO on the rear and 3B on the front would really screw proper eye relief..... No two people are built the same but the fact that you needed to move it backwards likely means I would be screwed if I moved it forwards......

Looks like I will have to try either 4BO forward and 5B on the rear of get a regular setup and take my chances?

With 6" of tube for mounting, I think a regular 4B/5B or possibly 3B/4B will work fine with a 32mm objective. Zeiss have a slightly wider bell than Leupold for the same glass.
 
With 6" of tube for mounting, I think a regular 4B/5B or possibly 3B/4B will work fine with a 32mm objective. Zeiss have a slightly wider bell than Leupold for the same glass.

Yes they do..... And the shoulders on the bells are steaper in angle grade, which frees up more tube..... Now I just have to find a dealer that has both the 3B and 4B in stock....... Or go with non Ruger rings..... Or get a full QD base setup and take that route....

Thanks for the pics and write up... To be honest, other than the scout, which has the full length pic rail on it, I always just take the rings out of the box and mount them.... I find the Ruger rings are excellent considering they come free with the rifle.....
 
Yes they do..... And the shoulders on the bells are steaper in angle grade, which frees up more tube..... Now I just have to find a dealer that has both the 3B and 4B in stock....... Or go with non Ruger rings..... Or get a full QD base setup and take that route....

Thanks for the pics and write up... To be honest, other than the scout, which has the full length pic rail on it, I always just take the rings out of the box and mount them.... I find the Ruger rings are excellent considering they come free with the rifle.....

I will fix you up for 3B/4B rings... I am not a fan of "Leupold for Ruger" rings... the OEM rings work very well and have the cleanest look IMO.
 
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