A couple things to mention here. The bead on the 14" isn't too bad. Shoots to POA with buckshot and only a touch high with slugs. I like the hogue forend both for its grippiness but also its shape. I find it quite comfortable. The short LOP stock is not for everyone. Some shooters like it and some hate it. I tried so many different positions, mounts and holds but nothing was comfortable behind that stock. Normally a high mount on the shoulder reduces or eliminates cheek slap with a shotgun but the short hogue still felt like a jab from a boxer everytime I pulled the trigger. The Magpul SGA fit me infinitely better. Few stocks have ever fit and worked that well for me. No cheek slap no matter how I held it, recoil was managed very well. The hogues are one of the lightest options and I believe the Magpul is around the same weight as a factory synthetic stock. Not the Chinese stock, that thing is a heavy beast. Test the gun good before you toss it in the trunk. Every manufacturer puts out lemons, the Chinese shotguns are certainly no exception. Overall I really liked my 14" Norinco. Other than a shell stop that was improperly staked and fell out and needing to be bent to feed reliably without slamming the action open, it was good. Once I fixed that it fed, fired and ejected everything I stuffed in its hole.