Duke of York inscribed on British sea service flintlock
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I am into blackpowder long rifles, not so much pistols, but that looks to be a 1790 or 1796 "long" model sea service pistol.
There was a "maker" named Staudenmayer who was the "builder" for the Duke of York and many of his works (guns and pistols) made reference to that as a selling point (inscribed on the guns or locks) - don't know if that has any bearing on your pistol or not.
In "excellent shape" a 1790 can/has sold in the 3K range. Your's is somewhat less than "excellent" (looks like the trigger guard has been squished and there is a chunk of wood missing at the muzzle end just at first glance.
Depending on the condition of the bore, whether the ramrod is original etc etc all has bearing on the price.
Not being anywhere near (even competent) to value such a pistol I wouldn't even begin to guess on the value of yours - you really need to get it to an appraiser that is familiar with weapons of this sort.
It's the little things that really drive the "value of" down considerably taking something from "collector status" to a "nice decoration".
There was a "maker" named Staudenmayer who was the "builder" for the Duke of York and many of his works (guns and pistols) made reference to that as a selling point (inscribed on the guns or locks) - don't know if that has any bearing on your pistol or not.
In "excellent shape" a 1790 can/has sold in the 3K range. Your's is somewhat less than "excellent" (looks like the trigger guard has been squished and there is a chunk of wood missing at the muzzle end just at first glance.
Depending on the condition of the bore, whether the ramrod is original etc etc all has bearing on the price.
Not being anywhere near (even competent) to value such a pistol I wouldn't even begin to guess on the value of yours - you really need to get it to an appraiser that is familiar with weapons of this sort.
It's the little things that really drive the "value of" down considerably taking something from "collector status" to a "nice decoration".
Hmmm, I'm not certain that the British Royal Navy did this with their small arms. If that were the case I would expect to see the names of vessels inscribed into every bloody piece of kit. Every musket, every cutlass, every cartridge box would have the name of the vessel, we don't see that.
We'll assume that this isn't the Duke of York's personal flintlock, I'm assuming that it isn't the vessel either so someone getting a wee bit creative with an old piece? (I'm not suggesting the OP, but 100 years ago who knows who's influenced this arm?)
We'll assume that this isn't the Duke of York's personal flintlock, I'm assuming that it isn't the vessel either so someone getting a wee bit creative with an old piece? (I'm not suggesting the OP, but 100 years ago who knows who's influenced this arm?)
A merchant vessel wouldn't bear the name (Title) of the Duke of York.
?! Googling...we realize I'm not talking about some guys 25' sailboat right? I'll apologize if there is such ships.
*edit* My googlefu must be weak. I can't find them. Link?
*edit* My googlefu must be weak. I can't find them. Link?
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google Duke of York ship
2 east Indiamen 18th and 19th century.
a barque 1817
2 steamships
At present the RN has an aircraft carrier named "Queen Elizabeth" and Cunard has a liner of the same name.
RN had a battleship "Queen Elisabeth" 1915-48 and Cunard also had a liner of same name 1940-68.
2 east Indiamen 18th and 19th century.
a barque 1817
2 steamships
At present the RN has an aircraft carrier named "Queen Elizabeth" and Cunard has a liner of the same name.
RN had a battleship "Queen Elisabeth" 1915-48 and Cunard also had a liner of same name 1940-68.
I am shocked. I was led to believe(all these years) this was bad mariner ju ju and wasn't done. But there you have it. Please accept my apologies for perpetuating my misinformation.
