Help me make my Tikka Sporter better for PRS

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Hey everyone I'm looking for some advice from people that have been following or shooting in PRS type matches. I have a Tikka T3 Sporter in 260rem that I would like to make a little better suited for PRS type matches.

The first big problem is the stock being pretty well right hand only. I've already made a new cheek rest that is symmetrical on both sides. (the factory one favors a right hand shooter.)

Next I have to make room for my trigger finger on the left side. I think I will open up a finger grove on the left side similar to how they did it on the right side.

I also want to open up the magwell similar to how the TRG is. Currently I can't easily get to the mag release.

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My last question for now is where to add sling QD's? I bought a Rifles Only FTW sling and got the QD attachments.

What does everyone think of my plan? Anything else I'm missing? Its not to late to stop me from ripping into my sporter stock. :)

Thanks!

Heres some pics of how it sits now.

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Good modifications so far, and good that you are not worried about modifying the stock because it's going to get scratched up good shooting those matches.

I'm not fond of that change in slope in front of the magwel. That is going to work against you on barricades unless you put a good sized bag under it. I wouldn't try to do anything like the MPA stock on a stock made of wood since guys are already tearing barricade stops out of the aluminum due to the torque. The forend itself has a pretty aggressive slope to it at the front. While some slope can help for small elevation adjustments, that's too much. I would make the forend less sloped and cut the part in front of the magwel 90 degrees, and create a nice barricade stop.

Something like this:
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For the flush cups, I have a configuration like this one (see from 3:00 on):
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Only the ones on the front of my stocks are further forward. The ones on the sides are nearly in line with the bipod swivel. The one on the bottom is back far enough to clear the podloc handle. The ones in the back should be high enough that the rifle doesn't want to flip over due to the weight of the scope. The FTW will also make the rifle want to flip over when you use the bungee if the flush cups are too low on the back. Put them on both sides if you plan on using the bungee for support side shooting.
 
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Given the value of the factory stock and how much mods you are likely to make, would you consider starting with a new stock?

Looking at the angles and scallops and lack of many flat spots, using supports, bags and rests is going to be a pain especially in the rear.

The forend is wider at the front which can get into issues with small openings. The slant as mentioned is alot and really isn't going to help off barricades

And if this stock is going to get banged up a bunch and chopped up a bunch, why not just start new? I am guessing the stock is pretty heavy as well?

Jerry
 
never paid much attention to slings as I don't use them in any comps but that one in the video is slick...

So a question, how important can a sling like this be and do you have the time to use it?

Jerry
 
Highly advise a sling for carrying the rifle from stage-to-stage. With a good sling, you can carry the rifle all day, comfortably. You can also operate hands free while carrying your rifle and pack, which you often want to do (reading the description for the next stage, eating, hydrating, etc...)

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I sometimes use mine while shooting. You won't have time to be getting in and out of it a bunch of times during a stage though.
 
kombayotch said:
I'm not fond of that change in slope in front of the magwel. That is going to work against you on barricades unless you put a good sized bag under it. I wouldn't try to do anything like the MPA stock on a stock made of wood since guys are already tearing barricade stops out of the aluminum due to the torque. The forend itself has a pretty aggressive slope to it at the front. While some slope can help for small elevation adjustments, that's too much. I would make the forend less sloped and cut the part in front of the magwel 90 degrees, and create a nice barricade stop.
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This!

I have a TRG22 that I bring out with me as my second gun for positional shooting practice. As Komboyatch has said its shape is very tricky to deal with off of a barricade. It is not just the slope that I find hard to deal with but also the height of it. I have a manners T3 on my other gun and I find the lower profile makes it that much more stable (IMO). I think the TRG stock is great for prone work and really comfy off hand though. Getting to the mag also isn't the best as it is buried up in the stock but you don't really have that problem.

I personally would follow Jerry's advice and get a Manners stock or a KRG chassis if that floats your boat. I think there is a Tikka KRG one for sale on the EE right now.
 
Also about the sling. You're not just using it like a TR shooter in these matches. Bungee slings are used to help solidify barricade positions.

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Thanks everyone for your replys!

I will have to put a lot more thought into this. I really do like the looks of that KRG on the EE but I don't like the price as much.

Jerry what would you recommend for a stock? Boyds pro varmint? How much would it cost to get one in Canada with the adjustable cheek rest and a green paint job?
 
The nice thing about the KRG stock is no bottom metal to buy, you don't have to bed it, etc.

I use to own a KRG folder for a M700, it is a high quality product. When they designed it they actually thought of the TRG stock design so some of the ergonomics will be similar.

I also really like my Manners stock and would recommend them as well.
 
Ryan.M.Anderson said:
The nice thing about the KRG stock is no bottom metal to buy, you don't have to bed it, etc.

I use to own a folder for a M700, it is a high quality product. When they designed it they actually thought of the TRG stock design so some of the ergonomics will be similar.
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I have an aftermarket bottom metal that takes AICS mags for a tikka. So I would be good with any stock inletted for a T3 action.

I will be bedding the KRG if I end up going that route :)
 
If I got a chassis, it would be an MPA after seeing how well their barricade block worked at several matches.

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K0na_stinky said:
Thanks everyone for your replys!

I will have to put a lot more thought into this. I really do like the looks of that KRG on the EE but I don't like the price as much.

Jerry what would you recommend for a stock? Boyds pro varmint? How much would it cost to get one in Canada with the adjustable cheek rest and a green paint job?
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If willing to change stocks, then you have to find the shape that fits you. I am very comfy with the Boyds pro varmint stock as it mimics the target stocks that I have been using for over a decade. Some much prefer thumbhole or pistol grip stocks so would lean heavily to the Chassis side of things.

It simply has to fit you, your style of shooting and what helps you get stable the fastest/easiest, I think weight and balance are also going to be very important as positional shooting gets less supported and transitions need to get faster.

PM or email to discuss Boyds stocks and pricing. Mine is undergoing some renovations to help with barricades, bipods, LOP and whatever I can dream up that might help in multipositional shooting.

K, thanks for the info on slings. I expected that as a support device, it might be a bit slow and cumbersome to use. As a rifle carry aid, of course.

Really like the bungee style sling... that is a great idea... and some very fine shooting.

Jerry
 
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kombayotch said:
If I got a chassis, it would be an MPA after seeing how well their barricade block worked at several matches.

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I have tried three separate time to buy a stock from them. Talked with him at SHOT show and said Canada shouldn't be an issue. Then sent an email a couple times and no reply. I would really like to get my hands on one to try.
 
max-x said:
MDT HS3 will serve your ambitions well. No import hassle required.
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Having had one on a tikka myself, no it will not. Carving up the sporter stock is a better option, or just about any other chassis. It has a poor trigger/grip relationship and has no barricade stops or angular features to be used as such. And has no provisions for flush cups.
 
Mystic Precision said:
never paid much attention to slings as I don't use them in any comps but that one in the video is slick...

So a question, how important can a sling like this be and do you have the time to use it?

Jerry
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Depends on the stage. Yes, some stages it's not necessarily beneficial, and could even end up being a hindrance. I don't buy the time excuse, as it literally takes a second to get in or out of a sling. If that saves you seconds building a solid position and getting off a proper shot, then it was time well spent (and saved).

Some stages it can be really beneficial to help lock in a solid position. Barricades are a great example. They work great on slanted decks/rooftops as well. I really think that slings are underutilized during matches.

I use a RO FTW bungee sling, and I love it.
 
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